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Quote: lammtarra95 "IMHO the lad's core skills just aren't good enough. His catching and passing are poor at best. At least twice during the Hull FC game he attempted a pass from dumm half and made a complete dog's dinner of it and the attack broke down. I also remeber a game last year where he threw the ball straight in touch about 3 times!'"


I suggest you watch the play off semi final against Saints again....people on this site have VERY short memories.

FFS..this is a centre that has scored and set up tries in Grand finals,Challenge cup finals and all the semi finals and quarter finals along the way.

GET A GRIP PEOPLE....maybe if you got behind him...maybe sang his name ...cheered him on PROPERLY.....

He's probably thinking...that Warrington crowd....cant't sing,...can't chant...moan moan moan....totally useless.

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I think too much is being read into it. I just took it at face value.

His tweet didn't say "I'll try harder when it counts", he actually says "its not from lack of trying!"

I don't think it's an attitude thing at all - fans and players alike want to win every week - but in sport in general (not just RL), some games are bigger than others.

He's always delivered for us in those games, and will do so again.

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Quote: lammtarra95 "IMHO the lad's core skills just aren't good enough. His catching and passing are poor at best. At least twice during the Hull FC game he attempted a pass from dumm half and made a complete dog's dinner of it and the attack broke down. I also remeber a game last year where he threw the ball straight in touch about 3 times!'"


I'm with you.
The pass to Myler where he knocked-on was a shocker - seen girls U-17 RU do it better.
Riley just is n't good / big enough either.

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""""IMHO the lad's core skills just aren't good enough. His catching and passing are poor at best. At least twice during the Hull FC game he attempted a pass from dumm half and made a complete dog's dinner of it and the attack broke down. I also remeber a game last year where he threw the ball straight in touch about 3 times"""

I wish we had ypu as our coach as you are obviously better than Tony Smith, Steve McNamarra and all the coaches who have coached Atlkins in the past, as they didnt see that his core skills were crap or they wouldnt have signed him in the first place or got rid of him. How embarrased must the scout be that first spotted him as a kid.
Ryan atkins is an internation quality and when on form one of the best attackers and defenders in the country, yes he is finding good form hard to come by at the minute but the class is still there and will shine through soon.
Grow and watch the game, an international centre with poor core skils ha ha ha !!

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Quote: marshman777 """""IMHO the lad's core skills just aren't good enough. His catching and passing are poor at best. At least twice during the Hull FC game he attempted a pass from dumm half and made a complete dog's dinner of it and the attack broke down. I also remeber a game last year where he threw the ball straight in touch about 3 times"""

I wish we had ypu as our coach as you are obviously better than Tony Smith, Steve McNamarra and all the coaches who have coached Atlkins in the past, as they didnt see that his core skills were crap or they wouldnt have signed him in the first place or got rid of him. How embarrased must the scout be that first spotted him as a kid.
Ryan atkins is an internation quality Centre and when on form one of the best attackers and defenders in the country, yes he is finding good form hard to come by at the minute but the class is still there and will shine through soon.
Grow and watch the game, an international centre with poor core skils ha ha ha !!'"


His core skills are poor without any doubt. In fact Tony Smith picked him out during a coaches education meeting as being unable to pass when he first joined the club. He has improved since but is hardly a rugby league playing natural and relies on his athletic ability.

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There are more core skills than passing, like ball carry, tackle evasion agility etc and i would rate him very high at these even if his passing is not up to speed for you all. So can we agree that his core skills are not poor maybe just his passing is a bit suspect, the rest are world class, hence the reason that he is a top class rugby player apparantly wanted by the other code for his skill

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Every time I see a modern centre make a break and observe the moment of abject panic as he desperately tries to decide if/when/who to pass to the same thought crosses my mind.

Allan Bateman.

Nothing kinky you understand, but that guy was a wingers wet dream.

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Who had better 'core skills' Kelly Shelford or Ellery Hanley?

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Who had better 'core skills' Kelly Shelford or Ellery Hanley?'"


Hanley which is why he was a world class centre a great stand off and a world class loose forward. He would have eaten more burgers than Shelford had he wanted to...........

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Quote: marshman777 "There are more core skills than passing, like ball carry, tackle evasion agility etc and i would rate him very high at these even if his passing is not up to speed for you all. So can we agree that his core skills are not poor maybe just his passing is a bit suspect, the rest are world class, hence the reason that he is a top class rugby player apparantly wanted by the other code for his skill'"


His grip and carry and tackle technique are not what they should be either.

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Quote: mark_m "His grip and carry and tackle technique are not what they should be either.'"


Ohhh I love it when you get technical MFS!!

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Quote: GB "His grip and carry and tackle technique are not what they should be either.'"


Ohhh I love it when you get technical MFS!!'"


lol sorry I have been doing this far too long!

It is interesting to watch first team players in relation to what they demonstrate to the Academy players and compare who can execute the techniques. Atkins is definitely one of the worst offenders but you get the feeling he came to the club without the benefit of some good coaching.

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Atkins to smash Saints this weekend.... Im predicting a Hat-trick

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Here is hoping the criticism makes him up his game. A few of the others need to follow suit as well.

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I'm with you Moz, big occasion big performance and the winning back heeled drop goal to add spice for good measure

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