The mighty Wire took two extreme batterings last season at Salford and Broncos. Seems they weren't exactly busting a gut to win those two matches.

I think the 2 batterings you are on about Brian Brady are the week before Wembley when we fielded a weakened team & the game at Salford where we fielded a weakened team. I think they were supposed to be both experimental teams as well to show how much strength in depth the Mighty Wire had but the reality on the pitch was different to what the management imagined.

Interesting debate.

The fact that we are even discussing it tells its own story.

On another note, does anyone know what Brian Barwick has done for RL or what he is currently doing for RL?

There are many areas of the game that we all feel can be improved but I believe it is time for all fans to get behind the game in this country and give it there support otherwise it will fade away at the expense of the NRL.

Thats a nice sentiment Doc but im afraid the players are leaving in their droves and so to are the fans.

The game, in its current format, is a joke.

Whats the last signing to SL that got you excited? Matt King? Adrian Morley?
When did anyone last see a really big hit or decent biff?
When did you last see 2 teams rip in to each other leaving nothing in the tank?

We're discussing it because you started it, you pillock. It's people like yourself who are doing the game down. every time anything happens, it doesn;t matter whether it's positive or negative, people like you just do the game down.

Of course its a joke Col ....

and for an even better laugh I'm just off to the the NRL forum to laugh at the state of the Aussie Game.....
as a rough guide I'm going to mention the lack of talent in their game that they are now raiding a second rate competition and signing players like Scott Moore, Lee Mossop and Pat Richards Im going to tease them a bit and ask when is Menzies going back to Manly ....ho ho...

I'll then laugh at how the highlights reel from one of their local channels in an attempt to make the NRL look spectacular unfortunately shows an entire two minutes of a collection of the now outlawed shoulder charges.

I'll Laugh at the number of one sided scorelines in the NRL this year and the number of times a team has failed to score in match this year.

I'll laugh at the fact for all that they preach about being so superior their premier team the Melbourne storm has been stripped of many titles for cheating and they play the most boring rugby on the planet (apparently its called sticking to structures) and do not pass the ball more than one out in their own 40.....ever.

I'm going to mention that the league is full of money mercenaries that would drop their game like a dirty stick if they could get money elsewhere like the sonny Bills and Israel Folau's of the world.

I'm going to mention the fact that since Lockyer has retired the Aussies dont have a world class stand off and at test level they have to play two scrum halves at 6 and 7...and not to mention a full back on the wing.

I will however congratulate them for having a mid season competition called the origin series but its hardly an even contest anymore. and the challenge cup has been around much longer and aussies get up in the middle of the night to watch famous old teams compete in that.

I'll sadly mention the fact that they may have lots of youngsters coming through but sadly they havent replaced the Shane Webkce's, Gordon Tallis', Darren Lockyer's of the world and they're just from one team never mind not replacing the Freddie Fitlers and Andrew Johns of the world.

or do you think there is an Australian version of you who has already told them.........

Everythings fine and dandy then lol

FINALLY!!! Somebody gets it.

So many opinions on the NRL, particularly from people on these forums are made based on dramatic adverts and highlights reels put together by Channel 9. People think that there's never blow out scores, every game is high intensity played in front of 30,000+, the referees NEVER get anything wrong etc etc etc. It really is laughable.

Oh, and on the subject of Melbourne. They have been in the NRL since 1998, correct me if I am wrong but this year is the first time they have had a Melbourne born lad play for them. Do you think Aussies shriek about that like we do over London/France? Likewise, do they worry about the amount the dodgy origin eligibility?

No, everything isn't fine and dandy, but the game needs its own so called supporters to stand up and support it. I can only remember one positive post that you've made on this Site. you constantly slag all aspects of the game off, yet you claim to support it.

Nobody ever goes into any game without wanting to win. However subtle psychological issues might just cloud that during the game; for instance if certain players are being rested might give the opposition a boost whilst undermining the confidence of our team particularly if the game plan doesn't work out.

That is very different than not wanting to win.

But is that because until a few years ago losing meant potentially missing out on the play offs? Where as now it is pretty much guaranteed for us.

Oh didums.

Dont cry little fella lol