Well clearly Wire are getting a very good deal because they can bring on their youngsters in a higher level competition ( than the U20's). And they can also keep their 1st team match fit by the same approach. If I understand correctly, the match fees will be paid by Swinton, so again Wire will benefit there as well. The only disadvantage from our side is the loss of the U15 and U20 age groups, where we had spent a lot of time and money in building up.

I would be very surprised however if there is just 'one moaner' from Swinton who dislikes the current set up. All the Wire players that you are getting on DR are contracted to Warrington, and will remain so unless released. If you are happy to field another clubs players for a year, then get a new set the following, fair enough. But I don't see how that progresses your club. If all you wasn't to do is watch better quality players and have a chance of winning silverware, why don't you go the whole hog and watch Wire.

Another advantage for Swinton and rugby league is that Warry fans may travel over to Swinton for the odd game. I certainly will.
Swinton, brothers in arms. Its the future, get used to it !

In the lower leagues clubs cannot really afford to build squads. If a player stays for more than 2 years he is a long serving club man. There are obvious exceptions. But as a rule it a merry go round of players. The only difference is now that these players are contracted to another club and if injured they wont cost us a penny.

If a club unearths a promising young player they are cherry picked by SL clubs. Hill from Leigh and Walmsley from Batley to name two. Its not like we can keep hold of them, as after all whats the best we can offer them? Promotion to the SL isn't going to happen.

Yes you do

Dual registration is only available to Twinned clubs , Loan deals are available to all clubs

Marshy , it isnt Swinton I am particularily unhappy with , they are unique among clubs in that John kidd has to keep them alive as a club without a home until he can get you back to Swinton , I have met John and have the utmost respect for what he is trying to achieve , and can understand that he does need to use whatever it takes

Ultimatley this expansion of the DR system does have the potential to finish off the Championships as a credible competition , and once the SL clubs get what they want n, they wont give it back

At last! This is what im talking about! Lets get out for a few beers before a game!

The main problem I see with the problem is that it does undoubtedly dilute the clubs identify. As a wire fan, you want see players who have committed to the club, play an active part in the community off the field and are in the P&B for reasons other than getting match practice.

There should certainly be a limit - sending four or five of the youngsters would benefit both clubs - it would enable Warrington to assess youngsters progress and provide Swinton with some depth.

I was cautiously in favour of the system before but Wood & McCarthy? We, and they, aren't going to gain anything in footballing terms (could well set McCarthy back because I though he was outstanding the last few months of last season). For the system to work it has to be beneficial to all parties.

did we lose our identity when we signed johns on a temporary contract? no!

in fact my abiding memory was a surge in interest and an absolutely rammed south stand! i also remember the likes of paul noone playing like world beaters off his shoulder...

only in the miserable moaning world of rugby league fans could a player like paul wood coming into your squad temporarily or a bunch of up and coming young lads busting their guts to get tony smith's attention be a bad thing

Again I'm sure you'll be down at the LSV happy to pay to watch them

Seeing the greatest player in the world playing in the games premier competition was a media, PR and sporting coup. Aside from comparisons with Paul Wood and Johns playing ability the two scenarios are totally different.

Tino

Johns was a 'one off'. There is a big difference in taking one player for a season, and taking 5 DR's and possibly other loan players as well.

I can understand your point here, and it is sometimes difficult for the SL supporter to recognise the problems that you have in the Championship. It must be difficult to build income streams and develop players, so fair point.

correct

As I put , Swinton are unique in that they are currently ' nomads ' attempting to keep a ' name ' alive , so I do have considerable sympathy for them


However this system , now it is available will be abused , and it will damage the credibilty of the competition for all the clubs in it , even those who are not twinned

According to Gareth Walker (League Express Championship correspondent this morning-



This has left me even more bewildered as to what the hell is going on, but it would seem that the above are no longer Warrington players. Who is paying their wages/fees, how long they are contracted for and whether Warrington have first dibs to sign them back I do not know. It would seem the only way they will be able to play for Warrington would be a (minimum) one month loan from Swinton.

What an absolute mess.

Does he mean that they are on season-long loans instead of DR'ed? I thought that was what had happened and they are still our players, as I cannot see us simply letting so many talented young players go.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that the afore mentioned lads are now registered with the RFL as Swinton players. This means that the only way they could play for us would be for us to loan them from Swinton for a minimum period of a month. I think this has been done to get around the limit of five dual registered lads being allowed to play at one time.

I could however be completely wrong. I am trying to seek clarification, will let you know.

Tis would be completely mad. I know Ormsby only signed his new deal at the end of last season and Mendieka had a great game on Boxing Day. I hope this is confirmation of season long loans.