By that definition then there is one good team and everyone below it is what? Average? I agree they haven't won anything. It's June. However they've been excellent in a number of games this year and have been much better than us for the most part. That's OK. It's allowed. I'd focus your energy on the improvement we've left to show rather than trying to belittle an opponent just because they're ahead of us in the league, have as zero talent cheerleader in the media and a number* of their supporters are classless morons.

*but by no mean all

Tomkins given a caution what a lovin joke carvs got 2 matches for less of a kick out.

And the ninja tackle (official name for having a player gripping ankles together thus making the tackled player immobile with another player coming over the top nd putting weight on the tackled player, without the ankles being released to allow the player to fall naturaly) (i know someone on the review panel btw) doesnt even get picked up on.

you wasnt expecting golden boy to get a ban just like carvell did...what do you want fair play??

suppose not but that is just a lovin farce if that wasnt with intent i have no loving idea what is!

sorry i am in a bad mood today as it is lol

You know someone on the review panel?

Is he aware that 90% of the RL community thinks that he, and his colleagues, is incompetent?

I don't blame Tomkins for what he does, the lad get's a lot of grief in the tackle. The problem I have is that his retaliation isn't dealt with. The SKY job doesn't help either, as people seem like they don't want to upset him or he may do one to RU, although I think he seems like a really good bloke on the programme.

He doesnt do the disciplinaries he watches the videos and puts forward the incidents to the disciplinary panel that decides whether its a caution or an offence.

Disagree as said carvell got two games for same so why caution! Buchanan should have give the little a hiding for that and no big brother to help him out sorry but RL cant be seen to be walking on Eggshells with him

Didn't Carvell have a previous Caution for kicking out before his ban? I may be wrong but that's just what I seem to remember, And if Sam is stupid enough to kick out with his feet like that again then I'd imagine he'll get a ban too.

Can't say I'm shocked to see this sort of reaction. The fact that every little incident he is Involved in see's a new thread calling for "little rat boy" to be banned and being labelled as a disgrace when he is one of a few special English talent's we have in the game says it all. What he does at times is a little silly but no worse than you see from other players. If he wasn't so talented he wouldn't be given a second mention. Lee Smith did exactly the same... and likewise received a caution. he's done silly things in the past too... not many threads calling for him to be banned though.

As for the JJB tackle, I don't think there was anything in it. If anything it was the players who where over the top of JJB pushing down that could have been seen as dangerous. Sam was perfectly entitled to go in as he did. Had it been from the front then I guess it would be a different matter.

More interesting is the fact that the awful and quite deliberate manipulation of JJB's body wasn't picked up. I hate seeing that in League and the fact it continually goes unpunished really isn't acceptable. Sooner or later someone is going to cop a life changing injury because of it.

It wasn't picked on becauae it was tomkins well not by me as I quite like him (nearly sick then lol) it was the fact he deliberately kicked up towards the face he cant use the excuse he couldnt see as he was on his back with no one on him looking at the leeds player

That would be the ninja tackle it is an illegal technique against the player gripping the ankles together thus making the player immobile as he should release as second tackler comes in to avoid undue pressure on the joints

Good and fair post Ian. It often seems on this board that you hate us more that you love your own team, which is frankly bizzare.

BTW, i hope you stuff Leeds, and by more points than we did...

Not all, i'm buying Yed a Wigan shirt for Xmas...