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Have they moved to the South East corner yet?

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Quote: manco "digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html and again!'"



That's a very similar list. I think there may have been a lack of originality from one of those authors.

I agree 7 through 1 should be considered but I don't necessarily think Peart is the best.

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Quote: wire-till-i-die "nicko mcbrain got to be up there with the elite drummers , listen to him drum in the track run to the hills by iron maiden , excellent'"

that was clive burr!

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In fact, I was right the first time.

It's the same bloody list. Check your damn sources. Fool.

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Quote: jdrocket "That's a very similar list. I think there may have been a lack of originality from one of those authors.

I agree 7 through 1 should be considered but I don't necessarily think Peart is the best.'"

google "best rock drummers"
and very few of the lists have peart any lower than 3rd!

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Quote: jdrocket "I think you have answered the why (Although, the beard is pretty impressive too)



I'm, actually, a bit of a fan of pre-A Trick of The Tail Genesis (or I prefer those albums). In fact, I was listening to 'Selling England by the Pound' on my way to uni this afternoon.


I am very aware of the fact you haven't mentioned Gabriel.'"


Loved all pre ''And Then There Were Three'' stuff.
Seen them 3 times and one of their tribute bands

For me Chester Thompson is / was one of the best drummers (was the drummer on many of the Genesis tours). Brilliant when he and Collins both played drums together on Dance on a Volcano.

Ginger Baker (Baker Gurvitz Army, Cream) was also awesome.
Jon Farriss - INXS
Rick Allen - Def Leppard
Nick Mason / Keith Moon etc etc

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Quote: manco "google "best rock drummers"
and very few of the lists have peart any lower than 3rd!'"


I don't deny he's a good drummer. The whole flipping band is special (not really to my taste). However, Palmer, Powell, Ginger, Bonham, maybe Ringo, and a few others would probably be that high in a lot of other lists.

Personally, which as I said originally is what this basically comes down to (due to style and preference), I don't agree Peart is the best. AS I said, Rush isn't my favourite band.

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Quote: fez1 "Loved all pre ''And Then There Were Three'' stuff.
Seen them 3 times and one of their tribute bands

For me Chester Thompson is / was one of the best drummers (was the drummer on many of the Genesis tours). Brilliant when he and Collins both played drums together on Dance on a Volcano.

Ginger Baker (Baker Gurvitz Army, Cream) was also awesome.
Jon Farriss - INXS
Rick Allen - Def Leppard
Nick Mason / Keith Moon etc etc'"




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I thought this was rock not jazz?
Anyway, Cozy Powell was bildge. Ian Paice peed all over him in Whitesnake. He just......swung.
Also Neil Peart????

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Quote: jdrocket "I actually got 'Melt' before I got any Genesis stuff (and before scratch and car). I think I may have been a bit put off by Phil Collins' later solo stuff (or bought into the image of him being an annoying weirdo). But yeah, 8th July 2009, I got that album and listened to it religiously. Was one of those important purchases. I have listened to it more than any of the Genesis stuff and the other Gabriel albums. I have to agree with you too about it being close to perfection (or 'genius', as you say) and Bilko being the weakness. It isn't exactly unlistenable but it meanders a great deal and doesn't really fit in with the tone of the album. But the first side(on the vinyl) is just a series of great tracks, bookmarked by my favourites on the album ('Intruder' and 'Through the Wire')

What is your view on' Foxtrot'? I can see the improvement on 'Nursery Cryme' and I am personally a massive fan (Get 'em out by Friday' and 'Supper's Ready' are close to audio nirvana) but it isn't the completed article.'"



Foxtrot's a good album, after all, they were still learning their trade, but.....Supper's Ready IS THE GREATEST ROCK RECORD, EVER (in my humble opinion).

It's a great pity (for Genesis) that the punk era started. Some critics used to give them reasonable reviews, however, when punk started, the trendy music press decided to put the knife into them, because John Lydon told 'em to (incidentally, Lydon and Collins DO get on well with each other, contrary to popular belief).

Re Gabriel, jd.....So is another cracker, which is worth your attention.

Back on thread, good call for whoever brought up the name of Ginger Baker
Some of his drumming on that Cream reunion gig @ Royal Albert Hall was a joy to behold.
There was also a little known band called BBM, in which he teamed up with Jack Bruce (again) and Gary Moore. I've got a 2 minute video clip of them, and Baker doesn't miss a beat...quality.

Back on Neil Peart, this fella CAN drum. Each time Rush tour, I keep meaning to get a ticket, but never get round to it. I've not got a Rush album since around "Time Stand Still" circa mid-late 80's. Are they worth a buy?

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Quote: jdrocket "I actually got 'Melt' before I got any Genesis stuff (and before scratch and car). I think I may have been a bit put off by Phil Collins' later solo stuff (or bought into the image of him being an annoying weirdo). But yeah, 8th July 2009, I got that album and listened to it religiously. Was one of those important purchases. I have listened to it more than any of the Genesis stuff and the other Gabriel albums. I have to agree with you too about it being close to perfection (or 'genius', as you say) and Bilko being the weakness. It isn't exactly unlistenable but it meanders a great deal and doesn't really fit in with the tone of the album. But the first side(on the vinyl) is just a series of great tracks, bookmarked by my favourites on the album ('Intruder' and 'Through the Wire')

What is your view on' Foxtrot'? I can see the improvement on 'Nursery Cryme' and I am personally a massive fan (Get 'em out by Friday' and 'Supper's Ready' are close to audio nirvana) but it isn't the completed article.'"



Foxtrot's a good album, after all, they were still learning their trade, but.....Supper's Ready IS THE GREATEST ROCK RECORD, EVER (in my humble opinion).

It's a great pity (for Genesis) that the punk era started. Some critics used to give them reasonable reviews, however, when punk started, the trendy music press decided to put the knife into them, because John Lydon told 'em to (incidentally, Lydon and Collins DO get on well with each other, contrary to popular belief).

Re Gabriel, jd.....So is another cracker, which is worth your attention.

Back on thread, good call for whoever brought up the name of Ginger Baker
Some of his drumming on that Cream reunion gig @ Royal Albert Hall was a joy to behold.
There was also a little known band called BBM, in which he teamed up with Jack Bruce (again) and Gary Moore. I've got a 2 minute video clip of them, and Baker doesn't miss a beat...quality.

Back on Neil Peart, this fella CAN drum. Each time Rush tour, I keep meaning to get a ticket, but never get round to it. I've not got a Rush album since around "Time Stand Still" circa mid-late 80's. Are they worth a buy?

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Quote: Disgruntledgoat "I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.'"

WRONG it's all bland middle of the road e.

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Phil Collins is an insufferable bellend

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How has Mickey Dee not been mentioned yet?

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