So let me get this straight, you're calling someone names for a reason that contradicts itself as well as having a pop at his uni education in a snobbish manner, despite the fact that you apparently went to uni and are the one making little sense?

Maybe you should try and justify your own uni fees first before pointing out others flaws? You can start by answering your own question

But back on topic!

As an outsider, I'd go for Wire vs Widnes, purely because Saints vs Wigan is THE derby over there, and Wire vs any of them two will always be seen as a nice sideshow. Widnes/Wire need to build on their own rivalry and try not let it be diluted with other potential main rivals. That's what makes Wigan/Saints and FC/KR so special. They hate each other more than anyone else. Wire vs Wigan/Saints won't be as special for that reason but Wire/Widnes could be.

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Cracked it ........ not simultaneously but I did do it "while" I was typing.

Anyway Wigan is the correct answer never has Widnes been a big match.... it got intense for a couple of years in their jiffy years.... the superleague era games with saints were predictable defeats with the odd classic thrown in. Before that they were another local team....

If you have ever been to a Locker cup game and still think anything other than Wigan is our biggest game then you are quite clearly wrong.

I think a lot of people say its Widnes because Wigans biggest game is Saints, and they feel it makes us bit inferior if our biggest game is another clubs second biggest game. Despite that Wigan will fill the away end this season and Widnes won't. So let that be guide to the importance of the fixture.

Is it just down to the hatred of the fans ???

Hull fc and Hull kr win hands down then ..... but the game itself over the years as largely been an ordinary fixture, or never happened due to being in different divisions. In the 80s i remember one derby being such a nasty event with massive crowd trouble that it made the front page of the papers.

Maybe I'm showing some ignorance of their fixture but Wires Wigan have had some classics over the years, the maine road semi. World war 3, Russell smiths stinker in 94. The Premiership semi at central park 86, to name a few high profile and trophy defining games.

No other club has been involved with so many of our greatest victories, and our most heartbreaking defeats than Wigan. If that statement blows smoke up their backsides so what....I'm not about to make a game against Widnes into something it isn't.

Got to be Wigan for me.

Not at the same time then...


To me I think it's a bit similar to how Hull looked at Leeds when Rovers weren't around in SL. They were our biggest rivals, we were both doing fairly well and challenging at the top, but Leeds never saw us as their main rivals and it just never seemed as special as the games against Rovers when they came up.

Of course, a year after Rovers came up, our *rses well out and we finished bottom 3 for two years, and we haven't beaten Leeds again since so they may have contributed!