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Quote: Fatbelly "Can you sign this e-petition calling for the Government to withdraw Benefits for anyone caught Rioting.
If you feel like I do that we should hit these scum in their pockets then pass this petition to your family and friends.'"


If you withdraw their benefits then what do you think these people are going to do for money ?

They are going to turn to crime, probably robbing your house as well as your neighbours so that they have some money in their pockets.

These rioters and looters obviously have very few morals, its them turning to crime which has lead to parts of the UK looking like a war zone.

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Wandsworth council have started evicting all tenants involved in the riots

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Wandsworth council have started evicting all tenants involved in the riots'"
Then they will end up on the streets where the Riots started in the first place!!!

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Quote: the ditch "Then they will end up on the streets where the Riots started in the first place!!!'"


Correct, hence my point above that if you stop their benefits then they are going to commit crime to get money. How do the goverment expect them to eat and survive with no money ? Its obvious what they are going to do so that they can survive.

Don't get me wrong here, i aint sticking up for them as i can't stand the murdering little scrotes, its just obvious whats going to happen if you take their money and houses away, they will commit crime and probably start squating in peoples houses that are unoccupied and for sale by breaking in and turning them into a right dump.

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Nothing long term will be done about the people who had loot or smashed up some bulidings etc etc.Its a Pr a stunt by Dave Cameron to make himself and his party look good.I read in paper one looter was sentenced for 6 months for pinching a bottle of wine,now a kiddy fiddler who downloads a load flith.Dosnt get a sentence like that,when in reality he should be looking at a long strech at HMP.It just smacks of desperation what this government is doing.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Considering this board represents a team from a historically very working class sport, located in a working class northern town, I regularly find the views expressed to be shockingly right wing.'"



Not sure of your point.....Most working class people are right wing, in the sense that they have an old fashioned racism ingrained in them.

Go to any 'working class' social club, where there will undoubtedly be a lack of 'foreigners', and talk of 'blacks' and 'pakis' will be viewed as acceptable.

Just go back not so long ago, and recall the treatment handed out to black players, and it makes a mockery of any idea that the working class are not right wing to a certain extent.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "All i know is the Punishments...thats right "PUNISHMENTS" aren't Severe enough and the prisons arent Harsh enough.

the remedy for that isnt exactly rocket science so sort that out and a few of these wannabe gangstas will think twice about recieving a dry bumbing next time around...'"


You're right, though I would argue that it is a lack of deterrents that is the problem.....Sentences, like the ones being handed out, are simply laughable.

Most of those who are being charged, will find 6 weeks in our hotels that masquerade as prisons, absolutely no change from the lifestyle that they currently lead....Mixing with other scum, whilst having a few hours on the PS3... d040.gif

I hate to sound draconian, but some form of corporal punishment needs to return to schools and to society in order to serve as the deterrent...We have to reverse the present situation, where supposed authority figures, like teachers and policemen, are expected to sit back and allow rowdy, trouble-making individuals to stomp around causing havoc, with no fear of any punishment.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Not sure of your point.....Most working class people are right wing, in the sense that they have an old fashioned racism ingrained in them.

Go to any 'working class' social club, where there will undoubtedly be a lack of 'foreigners', and talk of 'blacks' and 'pakis' will be viewed as acceptable.

Just go back not so long ago, and recall the treatment handed out to black players, and it makes a mockery of any idea that the working class are not right wing to a certain extent.'"

rubbish! times have changed. being right wing does not make you racist, extreme right wing politics maybe. but your sweeping generalisation is kinda what i was on about in the first place!

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Quote: SLIMply no treble! "rubbish! times have changed. being right wing does not make you racist, extreme right wing politics maybe. but your sweeping generalisation is kinda what i was on about in the first place!'"


I agree....I apologise for my hotch-potch attempt at explaining my point..... icon_surprised.gifops:

What I'm trying to say (I think), is that this whole left and right wing thing is all a little pointless.....In a traditional Labour area like Warrington, where left wing support should be the norm, things are not always so clear cut.....Yes, many like the idea of the all for one, one for all mentality, but in the nitty gritty of real life, people often succumb to simple human nature and emotions.

Supposed 'right wing' views such as those expressed on here are, rightly or wrongly, that human nature at work.

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I have right wing views on some subjects and left wing on others what does that make me, the current government?

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I agree....I apologise for my hotch-potch attempt at explaining my point..... nature or nurture? that's the debate that truly clouds the issue, peoples nature should be to look at why groups of people behave in a certain way rather than make statements like "shoot" them or make them homeless.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "I have right wing views on some subjects and left wing on others what does that make me, the current government?'"

honest!

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Considering this board represents a team from a historically very working class sport, located in a working class northern town, I regularly find the views expressed to be shockingly right wing.'"

We reap what we sow!
It's all the lefty, liberal wooly hatted tree huggers, that have caused most of the problems we're seeing on the streets, human bloody rights! over protective social workers, "poor Johnny's had such a hard time growing up in broken home, lets send him on an all inclusive holiday to Rhyl" sick to the back teeth of it all, the sooner we get some respect back in to our society and discipline back in to our schools the better, and I vill do votever it takes to achieve zis, today Ingland tomorrow ze verld. icon_mad.gif

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Few mentions of prisons being like hotels: did nobody watch that series about Strangeways the other month?

I don't think I'd choose to go there on holiday.

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