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50086_1357229109.jpg [b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
[b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg |
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| Quote: Tricky Dicky "What we all learned is that wire are not as good as their fans would have you believe, That wigan are a better side and that there are only one champions in this country and it isnt WIRE!!!'"
And your post has reminded us all what a classless end of a bell you still are. You're an embarrassment to your club.
FACT.
I already knew Wigan were an excellent team and yesterday hardly added any additional context to that. We'll see Wigan again, certainly once and probably twice. Only the most myopic Wiganer would write Warrington off after yesterday, especially when you consider what we had to contend with.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The Wigan fans did clap Solomona off the pitch, watch the recording.
I notice yourself and Wire_85 seem to have gone AWOL on the Wigan board.'"
FAIL. I've been AWOL on your board for around 2 years.
I didn't see any in the west stand, apologies if the north standers were.
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| I'd be interested to see who everyone thinks should play at 6 if Briers isn't available. Bridge doesn't make a lot of mistakes in the halves, but he hardly creates a lot of attacking opportunities either and moving him weakens the centres considerably. Grix was okay there earlier in the season, but with the injuries to Morley and Harrison there was no option but to play him in the forwards yesterday. Could Clarke be a better option? I just think that it's a massive shame that Gareth O'Brien is out for the season as he would be the obvious replacement and it would have been fascinating to see how he played alongside Myler as this could be the future halfback pairing at the club. The lack of a quality stand off for the rest of the season is concerning if Briers may be out for a while.
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| Hodgson has more about him with the ball move Bridge to FB just see if it works, it may not but would it hurt just trying? We've tried Bridge numerous times and he rarely if ever does anything of note when there.
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| i) Blythe is not good enough at centre & I'd rather see Rhys Evans given ago there as he stepped up to mark when called upon earlier in the year.
ii) Neither Higham or Clarke are good enough for us, we are lacking a world class hooker coming off the bench to replace Monaghan, the intensity & the speed drops instantly when Monas is replaced.
iii) We will really, really miss King.
iiii) We should have played Grix at stand-off instead of playing Bridge there, who, when he plays there is completely anonymous & we miss his footwork and his abilty out wide - this would also mean that we wouldn't need to bring Blythe in & we'd be creating a less change as possible.
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| After Lee Briers and Michael Monaghan i'd say that Brett Hodgson is our best threat with ball in hand as far as creativity goes, if Briers is going to be out for a while or gets injured in the future i'd go with Hodgson at 6. Both Grix and Bridge have been tried in the halves but its not really worked out with either, Clarke would just slow us down with his very basic game.
Bridge played well at full back away at Wakefield but lets face it they aint the toughest opposition, personally i think Bridge's best position is right centre where he's a genuine threat.
If Chris Riley is fit again and were able to recall him then he's about our only option at fullback after Hodgson unless one of the youngsters is ready to take the step up.
Other than that, Hodgson at stand off and move Chris Bridge to fullback with Joel Monaghan at right centre then have either Riley or Williams on the wing, out of those 2 i'd go for Riley all day long.
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| Has Hodgson ever played in the halves before? I agree that he's one of our biggest threats after Briers and Monas, but moving him to 6 would mean playing Bridge or Riley at fullback. In the games this year when Hodgson hasn't played that passing sequence from the halves out to the winger (one of our main attacking threats) hasn't been nearly as effective. Whether Grix, Bridge or Hodgson plays in the halves, another area of the team will be considerably weakened. I suppose the ideal solution would be if one of the under 20s was ready to make the step up. I wonder if TS will be tempted to throw one of them in in the next couple of matches?
Quote: Lord Tony Smith "i) Blythe is not good enough at centre & I'd rather see Rhys Evans given ago there as he stepped up to mark when called upon earlier in the year.'"
I'd like to see Rhys Evans given another go as well, a little bit more pace in the three quarters would add another dimension to our attack. Presumably he's fit again as he was named in the 19 last week I think. I can't really blame TS for not playing him ahead of Blythe against Wigan though. It would have been a tough ask for someone who's been out injured for a couple of months.
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| Quote: Jax "I'd like to see Rhys Evans given another go as well, a little bit more pace in the three quarters would add another dimension to our attack. Presumably he's fit again as he was named in the 19 last week I think. I can't really blame TS for not playing him ahead of Blythe against Wigan though. It would have been a tough ask for someone who's been out injured for a couple of months.'"
I agree, but drop him in next week against Bradford see how he goes. He were brilliant for us at the start of the season, let's give the lad some game time now he's back fit - he's got heaps of potential.
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| Sometime Hodgson is a world beater, and sometimes he just reminds me of Richie Mathers .......... all within the same 80 mins.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "iii) We will really, really miss King.'"
Couldn't agree more. I'm struggling to find how and where we are gonna replace him from within. But ISWT n'all that
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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]: |
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| Quote: sir adrian morley "it would knacker them for who plays full back'"
If tomkins was out then richards would go FB, who while not as good an attacking FB as sam, is probably a better defensive FB and pos one of the best defensive FBs in the league even though it is not his primary position.
If both were injured at the same time, which would be unlikely, we have more than enough cover as Roberts can also step in, failing which we have Goulding who can go ok at FB, and a young lad called Matty Russell in the 20s, who is a 20s England international and will go on to have a big future as soon as he gets a call up. We have more than adequate cover in every position on the field.
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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]: |
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| Quote: Wire in Ashton "Couldn't agree more. I'm struggling to find how and where we are gonna replace him from within. But ISWT n'all that'"
We have two perfectly good centres in Monaghan and Atkins - what we need are pacey wingers outside them.
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| Rhys Evans is quick.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Rhys Evans is quick.'"
So is Riley... why don't you try playing Monaghan at centre and Riley on the wing next season? He was scoring tries for fun last year. Blythe doesn't look good enough in some of the games i have seen Wire this season.
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