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A man true to his word. Few and and far between in today's society.

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I know what you are saying Sal and I bow to your knowledge and memory.
What I was sort of getting at was that I can't remember Morley having that sort of (petulant is probably the wrong word) Animated personality like Graham has.
Your memory is better than mine but I cant remember many Aussie props over the years that have the sort of expressions during a game that we see with Graham. I cant remember Aussie props having a go at the ref if things weren't going their way but I clearly see more of Graham than I have done of the NRL over the years
Still he is a great player and I am sure he will do well in the NRL and maybe he will chill out a bit without losing his enthusiasm during his time in Aus.

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Being out here in Oz for the last couple of years and watching the NRL week in week out, I think its good to see British players cutting it out here. Moz certainly paved the way , and now Ellis , Burgess and even Flanagan are going great guns,gaining the players respect and even the likes of cynics like Gus Gould and more importantly the RL fans who live and breathe the game out here. There are constant articles in the national press, segments on the likes of The Footy Show, and other RL shows profiling them interviewing them etc. Personally I'd like to see more of them out here , it will certainly help the international game.

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The fat moaning, ginger tossser is gonna fry like a vampire.

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Fair play to him,just shows he want to test him self at the highest level.Shame more English players havent got the balls to go and give the NRL a try.Is it because they might get found out,that they are not as good as the British press make them out to be.

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Quote: Nikaed "The fat moaning, ginger tossser is gonna fry like a vampire.'"

Apparantley he's only packing his essentials; a pram, a dummy and his toys.

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Quote: Ian 77 Redux "How wonderfully naive.'"

On Twitter, Daniel Anderson has mentioned how Jammer always talked about playing in the NRL. Jammer himself has said that he was tempted to go at the last round of contract negotiations but opted to stay. However, he felt this would be his last chance as Saints would want him to sign a longer contract this time (spot on) and he would be too old then to try it in the NRL. Nothing naive in recognising that while the man will want to make a living, there are other motivations. James Roby was also approached but he wants to stay in St Helens with his family playing for his local club. In his words, he 'couldn't be happier' than he is at present, so he signed up. He will have been offered similar no doubt to James Graham. He's certainly of the same class as James Graham. But they are two different men wanting two different things out of life. It isn't all about money, no matter how cynical some people are. If it was all about money, it is very possible we would have retained him because we offered him the best deal ever made to a player at Saints. But it was about adventure and trying something new. No amount of money or other carrots can overcome that.

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Quote: SaintsFan "On Twitter, Daniel Anderson has mentioned how Jammer always talked about playing in the NRL. Jammer himself has said that he was tempted to go at the last round of contract negotiations but opted to stay. However, he felt this would be his last chance as Saints would want him to sign a longer contract this time (spot on) and he would be too old then to try it in the NRL. Nothing naive in recognising that while the man will want to make a living, there are other motivations. James Roby was also approached but he wants to stay in St Helens with his family playing for his local club. In his words, he 'couldn't be happier' than he is at present, so he signed up. He will have been offered similar no doubt to James Graham. He's certainly of the same class as James Graham. But they are two different men wanting two different things out of life. It isn't all about money, no matter how cynical some people are. If it was all about money, it is very possible we would have retained him because we offered him the best deal ever made to a player at Saints. But it was about adventure and trying something new. No amount of money or other carrots can overcome that.'"



I hear that almost every week from a Sts fan about a wide amount of players.

I heard Kyle was offered the most of any sts player. Now Graham is. The amount of time it is said. Graham must have been offered a few million.

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Quote: SaintsFan "On Twitter, Daniel Anderson has mentioned how Jammer always talked about playing in the NRL. Jammer himself has said that he was tempted to go at the last round of contract negotiations but opted to stay. However, he felt this would be his last chance as Saints would want him to sign a longer contract this time (spot on) and he would be too old then to try it in the NRL. Nothing naive in recognising that while the man will want to make a living, there are other motivations. James Roby was also approached but he wants to stay in St Helens with his family playing for his local club. In his words, he 'couldn't be happier' than he is at present, so he signed up. He will have been offered similar no doubt to James Graham. He's certainly of the same class as James Graham. But they are two different men wanting two different things out of life. It isn't all about money, no matter how cynical some people are. If it was all about money, it is very possible we would have retained him because we offered him the best deal ever made to a player at Saints. But it was about adventure and trying something new. No amount of money or other carrots can overcome that.'"


Not about money? You do realise the NRL salary cap is about £2.8 million pounds.

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Quote: jdrocket "I hear that almost every week from a Sts fan about a wide amount of players.'"

Well, that's because it was our chairman who said so. He didn't say the same about Kyle, incidentally.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Not about money? You do realise the NRL salary cap is about £2.8 million pounds.'"

So?

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Quote: SaintsFan "On Twitter, Daniel Anderson has mentioned how Jammer always talked about playing in the NRL. Jammer himself has said that he was tempted to go at the last round of contract negotiations but opted to stay. However, he felt this would be his last chance as Saints would want him to sign a longer contract this time (spot on) and he would be too old then to try it in the NRL. Nothing naive in recognising that while the man will want to make a living, there are other motivations. James Roby was also approached but he wants to stay in St Helens with his family playing for his local club. In his words, he 'couldn't be happier' than he is at present, so he signed up. He will have been offered similar no doubt to James Graham. He's certainly of the same class as James Graham. But they are two different men wanting two different things out of life. It isn't all about money, no matter how cynical some people are. If it was all about money, it is very possible we would have retained him because we offered him the best deal ever made to a player at Saints. But it was about adventure and trying something new. No amount of money or other carrots can overcome that.'"



How much much more ginger/orange, does he want to be?

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I think it is a fair point about it being down to more than money. English people, young people especially, by and large are less keen on relocating than people from other countries. Look at football, other than Beckham you rarely see English players go abroad despite the fact you hear Gerrard/Lampard/Rooney etc linked with big clubs overseas. It's not about money either because the big clubs in Serie A and the Spanish league pay big money just like the Premiership clubs do.

Also how come at pretty much every English university, there are stacks of overseas students, but how many English students go and study abroad? It's cheaper to go and study in Europe and a lot of universities teach in English, so how come you don't get more going over there?

I reckon there's a cultural comfort zone thing, by and large Brits prefer to stay at home with what they know than go to a different environment. A lot of players are willing to switch from RL in England to try RU in England but when it comes to going abroad its a different kettle of fish.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Not about money? You do realise the NRL salary cap is about £2.8 million pounds.'"


If James Graham was money driven then he'd have stayed at saints for his testimonial and then gone to the NRL straight after, he'll be giving up some serious money by missing out on a testimonial.

His timing has suprised me a bit, i thought he would have stayed for 2 more years at saints so that he could play in the new stadium and have his testimonial, time is still on his side as he hasn't even hit his prime yet for a forward.

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Quote: Rob Wire "If James Graham was money driven then he'd have stayed at saints for his testimonial and then gone to the NRL straight after, he'll be giving up some serious money by missing out on a testimonial.

His timing has suprised me a bit, i thought he would have stayed for 2 more years at saints so that he could play in the new stadium and have his testimonial, time is still on his side as he hasn't even hit his prime yet for a forward.'"



As I have stated earlier, I am pleased that Graham has been true to his word and gone and tested himself. But, if anybody thinks he has done this at the expense of his earning power, then they are seriously naive.

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