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Quote: Rob Wire "Their is only one thing on this thread thats pathetic and thats your love in with Jon Clarke.

He's started 2 games this year and prior to him starting a game we've gone from being in great form without him to looking like a shadow of our former selves when he starts. When we were struggling away at Huddersfield and we needed some spark from the bench he came on and just made things a whole lot worse.

No it aint all Clarkes fault but you get the feeling that when he starts he drags us down down to his own level, you can't have him in any key position as he'll just slow things down, as a team we like to play fast flowing RL and his basic left and right passes can easily be read in the next county.

The game has moved on a lot since he was a capable player, he aint quick enough in anything he does to compliment our fast flowing style.'"



ARE YOU THICK OR DELIBERATLY OBTUSE

READ MY POST AGAIN (and the ones which relate to the Hudds defeat). I AM NOT A CLARKE FAN. NEVER HAVE BEEN, NEVER WILL BE. SO THERE IS NO LOVE-IN. GOT THAT. IT'S QUITE SIMPLE, OR DO YOU NEED TO READ IT AGAIN .
However, I don't go round with my fingers itching after a defeat, running to my keyboard to have a go at the clubs' current scapegoat (the latest in a VERY LONG line in my years of watching Warrington).

Clarke, this season, is way off the pace. FACT. But, whilst he wears a Warrington jersey, he'll get my support (along with his teammates, Smith, and a good proportion of the crowd) . It really IS that easy. It's just a pity some of our "fans" like nothing better than knocking a man whilst he's down.

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I am perplexed at Clarke being picked out. Even more perplexed at Solomona being hailed as a 'standout performer'.

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Quote: mark_m "I am perplexed at Clarke being picked out. Even more perplexed at Solomona being hailed as a 'standout performer'.'"



Me, too, mark_m.
Some people need to take away the bias towards/against certain players

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "ARE YOU THICK OR DELIBERATLY OBTUSE'"


Decisions, decisions....Can i go 50/50 or phone a friend ? icon_smile.gif

Their used to be a poster on here called Lefty that was an out and out Jon Clarke lover, i presumed you were him as i hadn't seen that ID post for a while then you come along with a similar name defending Clarke.

Apologies anyway if i got the wrong angle from your post, its just you seemed to be defending him along similar lines to the other Lefty would have.

Like i said, it aint all Clarke's fault as no one player can be blamed for any defeat.

Its just he doesn't bring a lot to the party these days, the game has moved on a lot since his very basic style was effective.

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Quote: worthing wire "Eh???'"


I meant have seen him.

He no longer has those flashes of brilliance he is instead just giving the ball away or killing the ball and, then, our momentum.

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Quote: Fearnhead Cross "You can't have been watching Warrington much this year, he's been a standout player for the Wire this year!'"


well something sticks out rather than stands out... he's gone all Graham Appo on us i'm afraid

Seriously though I fear he could cost us this year.

again its interesting that we are prepared to watch him miss tackles and offload to complete strangers in anticipation of that one brilliant offload........his last one I think was in last years semi final if anyones been counting

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Quote: mark_m "Was referring to this. Getting called as a hooker when he didn't even go into acting half-back today.'"


And where did i state in that post that he played hooker today, i was giving me opinions on when he does play there.

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Quote: mark_m "I am perplexed at Clarke being picked out. Even more perplexed at Solomona being hailed as a 'standout performer'.'"

Solomona is the ultimate oxymoron; on his day, he can win a game on his own doing what he does, however other times he's useless and pulls off some stupid offloads in his own half, Paul Rauhihi esque.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Decisions, decisions....Can i go 50/50 or phone a friend ?

No, Lefty is not me (well not for 9 years at least, I used to post as Lefty in the old days of Wolfweb, somebody took the name in my 9 year absence)

Bad performances can't be defended (on the whole), but victimisation....that's another matter

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Quote: Who are ya!! "And where did i state in that post that he played hooker today, i was giving me opinions on when he does play there.'"



So why not talk about his performance at scrum-half then?

Quite frankly Clarke is an easy and obvious target for the terrace pundits. Why not pull out Louis Anderson who was spectacularly awful today? Why not talk about his inability to hit and stick in the tackle, something that has not changed since he joined the club? Then again most probably haven't even noticed that.

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Quote: mark_m "So why not talk about his performance at scrum-half then?

Quite frankly Clarke is an easy and obvious target for the terrace pundits. Why not pull out Louis Anderson who was spectacularly awful today? Why not talk about his inability to hit and stick in the tackle, something that has not changed since he joined the club? Then again most probably haven't even noticed that.'"


Because i was talking about Clarke overall this season, at 7 today he was the same he is just too slow when passing the ball his defense his fine but that's about it.

And why i don't mention other players is because for them there one offs Clarke is consistently poor.

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One more thing;

Warrington coach Tony Smith:
"We didn't handle the day as well as we would have liked. We made too many errors with and without the ball.

"We tried to lift on occasions and get ourselves out of that but I felt some of our key players weren't at their best.

"About four or five were down on what you would expect. That makes it hard but hats off to Hull they have handled the short turnaround better than we did."

Bet TS hasn't put Clarke in that 'four or five'.

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Quote: mark_m "One more thing;

Warrington coach Tony Smith

Sorry too say Jon but your crap end of.

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Quote: mark_m "One more thing;

Warrington coach Tony Smith

Perhaps, but you could interpret that as Smith not seeing Clarke as a key player, or even less charitably, as Smith not having high expectations of him in the first place icon_wink.gif

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Well yes that did cross my mind lol

My guess for the four or five will be Briers, Hodgson, Solomona, LAnderson and Monas. Any further offers?

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