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Quote: Saint Jon "Don't get to see you guys every week for obvious reasons but he must be one hell of a good number 9 to be considered better than Roby. I'm sure we are all alittle biased when it comes to our own players. However I'm sure if all Super League coaches had the opportunity to take a number 9 from another club Roby would get most votes, with tommy leuleui second Monaghan third. My opinion of course.'"


If you think Roby's better than Monagan M, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it (I don't agree with you, tho)

If you think that Leuleui is better than Monaghan M, then you're either
1. a wind up merchant
2. stupid
3. clinically insane
4. breaking into mummy and daddy's booze cupboard
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None of the above. But on the basis he is a good number 9. World cup winning hooker not to mention mom in last years grand final and 4 nations winner, so u not telling me he doesn't have a shout at being as good as Robes and Monnas

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Quote: Saint Jon "None of the above. But on the basis he is a good number 9. World cup winning hooker not to mention mom in last years grand final and 4 nations winner, so u not telling me he doesn't have a shout at being as good as Robes and Monnas'"



...but John O'Shea has won countless winners medals in football....doesn't make him a worldbeater, does it

if you think Leuleu is anywhere near Monaghan, you need your General Election vote taking off you

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Quote: Saint Jon "None of the above. But on the basis he is a good number 9. World cup winning hooker not to mention mom in last years grand final and 4 nations winner, so u not telling me he doesn't have a shout at being as good as Robes and Monnas'"



ing hell, are you a wigan fan?

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Not at all. Dislike the Pies as much as you guys. I'm sure the Wigan fans would say he is the best number 9 as he plays for them as you do with Monnas as I feel Roby is. it's all matter of opinion with alot of bias. I'm sure Monnas will continue to have a great season for u guys but I wouldn't swap him for Roby, may consider swapping him for Scott Moore though.

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Quote: Saint Jon "Not at all. Dislike the Pies as much as you guys. I'm sure the Wigan fans would say he is the best number 9 as he plays for them as you do with Monnas as I feel Roby is. it's all matter of opinion with alot of bias. I'm sure Monnas will continue to have a great season for u guys but I wouldn't swap him for Roby, may consider swapping him for Scott Moore though.'"



TL is bobbins.

1.Monas
2.Buderus
3.Roby

In that order.

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2011 is YEAR OF WOLFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:



Monaghan makes Roby look silly in general play but on SL site, Roby seems to dominate most stats.

TL and Buderus both rubbish now, would not want at Wolfs.

Year of wolfs !!!!!

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Quote: Iggle Piggle "Monaghan makes Roby look silly in general play but on SL site, Roby seems to dominate most stats.

TL and Buderus both rubbish now, would not want at Wolfs.

Year of wolfs !!!!!'"


Statistics are no substitute for judgment.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Statistics are no substitute for judgment.'"


Agree, and I did check to show Monas better.

Roby Monas
Tries 3 0
Assists 7 5
Metres 2049 774
Carries 381 154
Tackles 396 209
Offloads 20 16
Runs from DH 316 133
Busts 32 21
Marker Tackles 51 29
Clean Breaks 6 1
Missed Tackles 19 22

Roby looks gud on stats but Monas is one of best in rugby world and makes more kicks. If Roby keeps improving tho, he may be as gud as Monas in future.

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Monas and Roby are two completely different style of Hookers. As are John Clarke and Mickey Higham.

The Monas Roby debate is just down to opinion, but throwing Leuleui into the mix is just plain stupid. Winners medals, meh. As someone said, John O'shea, Wes Brown, etc etc etc. All got a sh*tload of awards/medals, but would they compare with say John Terry, Vidic etc? Nope.

Monas and Roby, if they were in the same team, what an interchange we would have!!!!!

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Quote: leagueorunion "Monas and Roby are two completely different style of Hookers. As are John Clarke and Mickey Higham.

The Monas Roby debate is just down to opinion, but throwing Leuleui into the mix is just plain stupid. Winners medals, meh. As someone said, John O'shea, Wes Brown, etc etc etc. All got a sh*tload of awards/medals, but would they compare with say John Terry, Vidic etc? Nope.

Monas and Roby, if they were in the same team, what an interchange we would have!!!!!'"


Roby is starting now and playing all game. Doing a lot of work. Just because right now Roby is better at tries, assists, tackles, markers, carries, busts, breaks, runs from dummy half, marker tackles and missed tackles doesn't make him gud. He has to play gud cos Sts dont have anyother gud players. Roby would not stand out much at Wolfs, he'd defo be behind Monas but could probs replace Clark/Mickey Mouse lol.

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A fairer comparison is Monas v Lunt at Hudds. Same games and minutes rufly. Everyone knows the league is biased to Saints so cant take Roby stats as true. Lunt is with top of tree and yet Monas better everywhere !!!!!!!!!

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Stats are pants really.

A scenario

Roby scoots from dummy half runs 50 yards and no try comes from it.

Monas scoots 15 yards, beats the defensive line, throws a pass round the back of a defender, Myler etc score.

See where i'm coming from ?

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Quote: Yed™ "Stats are pants really.

A scenario

Roby scoots from dummy half runs 50 yards and no try comes from it.

Monas scoots 15 yards, beats the defensive line, throws a pass round the back of a defender, Myler etc score.

See where i'm coming from ?'"


Defo. Cos of bias to Saints players on SL website, more likely is Roby scoots for 50 yards, makes break and assists try as he has nearly 3 times the yardage of Monas, more clean breaks and tackle busts with more assists!!!! Its all lies, Robys stats are so gud they cant be beleeved as true,

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