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| I know full well you didn't say you blamed Clarke for the loss
My point is, why have another thread which picks on one player. Wire fans HAVE to have someone to whinge at.
Collective responsibilty. Clarke wasn't the only one to give away penalties/knock on/pass forwards, yet where are the threads critisising other individuals ????? FFS!!!
After one mistake by Clarke on Fri night, the posts on the Hudds v Wire thread went into meltdown, bang, bang, bang and the thread turned into a kick Clarke whilst he's down, issue.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "The whole Clarke thing is a funny one....For some reason, just the mention of the man's name seems to spark off vastly differing emotions!!
Personally, and I've said it on the other thread, it is a simple logic.....Clarke, while he has been a good servant to the club, has simply reached his 'use-by' date with Wire.
It happens with a lot of players....Wainwright, Noone, Mark Gleeson, most recently, Vinnie Anderson, the list is never ending....Quite simply, as a club progresses so it has to shed players who have basically served their use of helping that club to make strides forward, but who are now unable to provide any further impetus.
Clarke, with a combination of his advancing years and his limited abilities, no longer can provide anything to the club as a whole.
I must admit that some of the bile that is poured out towards him can be a little distasteful....However, somewhere between the bile and those who defend him lies the truth and that is that Clarke should be no more than a fringe player for a club of Wire's ambition.
Yes, he can help to fill a few gaps when needed, but in a backs-to-the-wall situation like Friday night was, Clarke is more likely to have his frailties exposed than actually provide any kind of inspiration.'"
summed up perfectly.
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| Not Clarke's fault we lost in theory but yeah, the bloke is gash, and has been for a fair while. Hardly uncommon for me to point that out. He's kind of like a turd in the punch bowl!!
Now I'm not going into the a Higham/Clarke issue as i've trekked down that road a million times. But I hope that no-one can honestly sit there and tell me that Higham wouldn't have been a better option on friday? Yes, he gives silly penalties away at times (which does make my pi$$ itch), but against a big pack which are dominating yours, you need a spark. And that, even if it's the only thing he posseses, is the perfect weapon for situations like friday.
Having said all this however, the collective performance of the team, accompanied by a very very good performance by Hudds, was the reason we lost. They will give a few teams a hiding at Galpharm this season.
And did anybody feel we look like a team lacking in confidence slightly? It certainly appeared that way to me, and its quite astounding.
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| Quote: oli30045 "He was awful, but Clarke coming on didn't fill me with confidence really. Any reason that Higham wasn't on the bench?'"
He forgot his kit!!
Anybody follow what I'm getting at here??
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "I know full well you didn't say you blamed Clarke for the loss
My point is, why have another thread which picks on one player. Wire fans HAVE to have someone to whinge at.
Collective responsibilty. Clarke wasn't the only one to give away penalties/knock on/pass forwards, yet where are the threads critisising other individuals ????? FFS!!!
After one mistake by Clarke on Fri night, the posts on the Hudds v Wire thread went into meltdown, bang, bang, bang and the thread turned into a kick Clarke whilst he's down, issue.'"
Ah I get it now.. Its My timing your worried about?? I should have waited till the end of the season to make a Clarke out post??
I think you'll find Yes all the Players made Knock ons forward passes gave penalties away.. But Clarke was probably the player on for the shortest time and stuck out like a sore thumb.. However It wasnt this particular game I was refering too .
I do hate to bag a player in his testimonial year. But he just doesnt offer us anything anymore
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Yeah...we're in freefall, after beating
defending SL champs
3x SL champs in the previous 3 seasons
a team that's part-dominated the game since SLs inception, two of them away from home, all in the space of a month....downward slide, yeah
Have you been sniffing the Grannox air again?'"
I am glad you agree.
When Widnes have been in SL as long as Warrington we will have won more trophies.
And, by the way, I live almost 100 miles from Widnes.
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| Quote: wire-till-i-die "youd know all about downward slides after watching your trash for the last 10 years plus , hope your looking forward to becoming the new whipping boys of superleague'"
Teams have their spell at the top, like Widnes have, but they don't stay there all of the time.
Warrington have been mediocre for a long time, but two good seasons does not make them world beaters.
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| Quote: Old Viking "I am glad you agree.
When Widnes have been in SL as long as Warrington we will have won more trophies.
And, by the way, I live almost 100 miles from Widnes.'"
"flippin 'eck" that Grannox air travels at least 100 miles. He's been sniffing it again
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50086_1357229109.jpg [b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
[b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg |
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| Quote: Old Viking "
When Widnes have been in SL as long as Warrington we will have won more trophies.'"
Good for you pal, we all need pipe dreams. Keep them alive, that's what I say.
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| Quote: Old Viking "When Widnes have been in SL as long as Warrington we will have won more trophies.'"
If Warrington had been in the championship for as long as Widnes have, we would have won more trophies than you.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt ""flippin 'eck" that Grannox air travels at least 100 miles. He's been sniffing it again'"
It travels east, which is the reason why .............
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "If Warrington had been in the championship for as long as Widnes have, we would have won more trophies than you.'"
You may well get to try it!
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| Quote: Old Viking "You may well get to try it!'"
You're right... if this club doesn't stop this alarming slump in fortunes, on and off the pitch, we could struggle when the next set of franchises come round.
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| I really cannot fathom why you decided to pick out Clarke from the teams performance last night.... everyone was below parr. I know you've said that you're not blaming him, but you really are as you went on to complain about him, strange that you decided to do it after we lose a match. When we win, nobody says a word, but when we lose, Clarke is cra-p threads pop up. Evans was terrible in defence, Harrison was dropping balls all over the place, Ryan Atkins did sod all, BRIDGE was just non existant, for a player meant to be playing at 6 that night he never did anything. Clarke was definitely not worse than any of the players on Friday, and he isn't on any other night, at worst he's just average, which we have a fair share of players like that in the team, but they don't get blamed.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "You're right... if this club doesn't stop this alarming slump in fortunes, on and off the pitch, we could struggle when the next set of franchises come round.'"
Like I said on another topic, when you are at the top there is only one way to go when every team wants to beat you.
Two Challenge cups back to back --- good wins, too, take a lot to live up to, and I would worry also if one of your top playmakers was coming to the end of his career.
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