instead of moaning why didnt he run harder and try and smash mozza back he had plenty of chance and mozza elbowed him cos graham was trying to do what he does best and cheat, best forward in super league my he want last 5 minns down under we ran all over your pack last night and so will other clubs that pooh danny lima aka(jeff lima) will run your pacck out the ground i would rather have him than some dummy spitting fat ginger penis

Graham wouldn't be headed to one of 8 NRL clubs to have bid for his services if he wasn't a pretty special player. He got hurt by Carvell's forearm early on last night, nothing 'owned' or 'smashed' in it. The kind of thing that would have made 99% of props sit the rest of the game out. Like I said the stats will not back up your claims that he got 'monstered' by your pack. He'll still be in 3 figures for metres easily and no doubt in the twenties for tackling.

Graham's passing before the line is one of Saints best attacking options as well. We've scored hundreds of tries off it in the past, so why would we want to remove that from his game? Saints didn't play all that badly last night. We just didn't have the halfbacks to break your excellent defense down. Had we had for example Goulding and Martyn or Long and Pryce we would have scored points in the first half. We must have had 10-12 sets in your 20 in the first half alone last night, the platform was laid, it's just the backs aren't what they used to be.

The truth is that Warrington did a professional and disciplined job in grinding out a comfortable win against a side missing a front line prop and it's best half back. There was no 'smashing' going on, nobody got 'owned'. I've got no problem with Warrington being a better side than Saints at the moment. I think you will go on to be for a few years given the backbone of our squad is about to be replaced (Cunningham, Pryce, Eastmond, Graham all gone/going). But until you stick a hammering on us I'd just like to see a little perspective. The likes of Graham and Roby are a least equal to anything playing in SL, even if the squad strength and overall quality is down on recent years.

I'd like you to tell me how he tried to cheat?
He's not a big hitter that's not what Graham is known for it's his metre making.
And that's why when jeff Lima played against us he cheated and got banned for 2 matches aswell as losing a 16 point lead

Graham's mind is elsewhere, along with Eastmonds. Both will not be at St Helens for very much longer.

I thought this would have been about the mentions in the sporting press. I've had 5 Live on for a while today and had SSN on and no-one has even mentioned it in the sports bulletins. SSN had highlights of the Leeds v Harlequins match in their brief SL report, but didn't even mention our game and went straight onto golf.

What was Eddie's comment? "What an angry young man James Graham is." Had me in giggles.

Might not be quite right but I'd had a few by the time I got to watch the replay.

very tempremental young man

i wonder why

It'll be interesting to see how that side of his character goes in Australia. I don't think Saints have even tried to stop him as he's never been sent off that I'm aware and has put in season after season of ridiculously brilliant and consistent performances for us.

Will they tell him to 'calm down, calm down' or will they use him like they did Morley and tell him to get stuck in. In an environment with a couple of other senior props where he could do proper spells his impact could improve a lot and with the superior coaching and opposition he could develop nicely.

No doubt that Graham is a tough guy and a quality player. But his on-field whingeing is contrary to the spirit of the game, so Saints fans can hardly be surprised that other teams love seeing him suffer. He was clobbered round the park last night and I'm sure he'd rather have given the game a miss.

i'd always expect him to say something to the ref, its getting the moaning to shut up thats the trick.

I thought with the inclusion of another out-and-out prop in LMS to assist Graham, he would have kicked on from last season, where he was excellent. On last night's showing it appears to have had the opposite effect.

do the runs and short passes that graham makes count as metres made ? he made a good bit of ground out wide last night he had to go there to avoid Carvell and Morley though

when Comparing Adrian Morley to James Graham You need something different like a "soiled under pant index" or something.

if Morely made only five meters last night and James graham 120 he would have still been a very long distance behind Morely in terms of performance and effectiveness....


Anyway this is the wrong board for meters made stats...there's a thread on the Wigan board entitled Pat Richards greatest Metre maker ever....jump in

Morley wasn't one of your best players last night. Don't go getting all blurry eyed about him. Solid but nothing more. No particularly big hits and absolutely nothing with the ball. Carvell was your best forward, then the likes of Westwood, Wood and Anderson. It wouldn't surprise me if Morley got a knock himself last night given how long he spent on the bench.

LMS just replaced Bryn Hargreaves. Josh Perry is the man that should help James Graham.