totally agree..we are too wrapped up in red tape and having some numpty telling us what and what we cant do..christ sake just get on with it.we did many years ago..thing is when all this snow and ice goes and the binmen deem it fit to work in there will be a bit of a backlog of rubbish.no doubt the lazy sods will moan about the extra work...jesus they may have to work 5 or 6 days,

waste of a good pair of workboots.

I tip my hat to the binmen,it could be worse they could be walking the streets!!

Just take it the tip yourselves. Its not the end of world.How much waste does a average family produce. In my house they is 2 adults 2 children,and some weeks i dont need to take. The bin every bin day,stop moaning about it and do something about it.

Good for you. How does my friend with MS take her waste to the tip, or my 84 year old grandparent?

So basically what you are saying is the private sector delivers? Drivers who choose to work for courier firms are not forced to take the job.

They, the private sector couriers, are under the same litigation risk as WBC, drive heavy vehicles and are logistically affected (a lot more) by weather. Upshot is public sector failed, private sector succeeded.

Well if i had mate with MS i would take it for them,and i offer to take my grandparents at the same time.

And if you were disabled yourself? Anyhow why should I be a bloody binman for people I know. I hope we get a rebate in the council tax.

Th is post doesnt even make sense. What do you mean. Some weeks I dont need to take the bin every bin day. How many bin days do you have and where do you take it to ?

Take about overreacting. It ain't the end of the world is it?. Driving my car on the icy side roads is bad enough. I don't want a 20 Tonne (complete and utter guess) wagon swerving in and out of the often poorly parked cars. Maybe if we didn't have a compensation culture, the council would be prepared to take a small amount of risk !! So either wheel your bins to the collection points (helping out any elderly neighbors) or fill a couple of bin bags and take YOUR waste to one of the waste centres. Whilst walking or driving back, give a few thoughts to the real needy this Xmas...

This is the last i`ll say on the bins subject, you obviously don`t understand how transport works.

I started out as a courier driver before i passed my class 1 HGV, i was a courier driver for 10 years and did on average 60 - 80 drops a day + collections.

HGV vehicles are not normally used for multi drop courier work due to a couple of reasons, they will only be used in the following circumstances.

1. The parcel he was delivering to you was either too heavy or too long for a van or it would take up too much space on his van where he could have fitted 10 or so smaller parcels on instead of a larger parcel, a lot of courier drivers are owner drivers and space is money so 10 smaller parcels will make him/her more money than one large parcel that takes up a lot of space.

2. A driver that normally does your area in a van may have left the parcel off because he had reached his set target, drivers that are employed by companies (non self employed) normally have a target of a max number of drops, if the drivers run has more than his target then he will leave some parcels off (normally the non next day stuff like 2 day etc). A supervisor may then throw a couple of those left off parcels onto a 16 tonne HGV vehicle or 7.5 tonne that maybe going up your way to do a bulk collection from a customer, it makes sense to clear some of the backlog if another vehicle is heading your way.

3. Its xmas so a lot of companies are probably having to use anything thats available to clear the backlog which has been created by the shear volume of xmas parcels at this time of year plus the delays with weather, ive even known them send out parcels in managers or sales reps cars.

Its uneconomical to use a HGV for multi drop courier work as it would use too much fuel, you would never get anywhere near 50 drops done, you would be lucky to get 40 done. Also in a HGV you need a 45 min tacho break after 4 half hours driving, you can`t afford to be delayed for that long with 60 - 80 drops to do + collections.


Anyway, back to the bins. The bin lorries constantly work in side streets, HGV courier vehicles don`t. As you must surely know, when you normally see a courier vehicle flying about its a van and its a van for a reason, a van is the most economical way to deliver parcels plus you don`t need a tacho break, time is everything when your a courier driver with 60 - 80 drops to do then your collections.

So the private sector hasn`t won at all, its rare for 16 tonne courier vehicles to be in a resedential area as they just arn`t economical or practical to use for so many drops where as an HGV bin lorry is constantly in resedential areas, it doesn`t take a rocket scientist to work out which of the 2 is more likely to have an accident on iced over side roads.....

i think its great less work they do more work for my buisness