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Sad news.

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RIP Terry.

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Quote: Hardcore Legend "RIP Terry,

The question that should be asked now is if you are banning a player for 2 years for or more do the RFL/governing body have a duty of care to that player to provide councelling, not only in relation to the offence commited i.e. drug use but also mentally too.

The fact that Terry was 31 years old and his mistake probably cost him his career could have been a contributing factor to this tragic occasion'"



you would think he would think of his kids and then not want to do what he did...
not sure what the RFL could do if a bloke with a family is still willing to commit suicide.

the bloke in my avatar the great Stuart Adamson also Commited suicide leaving behind close friends and Family...i'll never understand the depths someone has to plummet to do that.

i liked Newton for appearing on Superleagues supermen it was quite uncomfortable for him but what he did was better than What Gareth Hocks done. (nothing... and will come back to the sport like a hero in the eyes of Wigan fans no doubt).

A Sad Sad loss and a very good player too

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RIP Terry very sad news.

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rlTerry Newton tributerl

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very very sad news...feel for his family and all who new him...as brian carney rightly put it if you loved him or dis-liked him..he was a human being...r.i.p terry a sad loss to the game and life in general....

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Still can't believe this has happend, Thoughts are with his family and friends.


Feel sorry for Brian Carney in the studio.

Anyway R.I.P Terry Newton.

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Disliked him,but that comes about like Keiron Cunnigham theyve bothed destroyed us over the years I fully respected him as a rugby league player and Ive gone from such a high with winning the grand final with the Wizards too such a low!!!!!! Feel like crying now RIP Terry Newton xxx

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Terry Newton was a pantomime villain, probably the only one similar in RL at the minute is his arch nemesis Sean Long. He was a player the fans loved to hate, while fans of whichever team he played for loved him for his wholehearted efforts whenever taking to the pitch, his uncompromising style of play often crossed the boundaries of legality - just ask Long or Lee Gilmour - and his pushing of his own limitations ultimately lead to his cheating by using HGH in an ill-founded attempt to prolong his career.

Whatever your opinions on the drugs he took (my own that anyone who cheats deserves to be banned from playing again), there are few doubts he saw the foolishness of his actions when accepting his ban. He revealed a lot about himself in the months after the ban - the fears that other players were overtaking him that drove him to take HGH; the loathing he had for drugs following the addicition and death of his sister; the diginity in his response to being asked to "name & shame" other players taking HGH; his determination to educate youngsters in the game as to the folly of taking banned substances.

There will be much speculation as to the reasons he took his own life. Maybe seeing his former club Wigan reach the Grand Final & the celebrations associated with that struck him as to what he had thrown away; maybe the dichotomy of his actions against his stand against drugs was just too much; maybe it had nothing to do with rugby at all. People will cry and wring their hands and scream the RFL should have done more. Maybe they should - but who knows what they actually offered him? Players will come out of the woodwork and offer their sympathies & soundbites, but how many called him or text him after his ban? Fans will fill internet message boards with RIP's & "what a shames", but how many of these were building gallows for him in February?

The real tragedies from Terry Newton's suicide are for his family left behind. My thoughts & prayers are with his family & real friends. I never knew him or even met him but I can still express sorrow at a loss for those who loved him. The lessons to be learnt for all are of a life & career wasted & tainted by fear, selfishness & greed. The shame are of the players who will have breathed a sigh of relief at the news yesterday, knowing that the man who could have exposed their own failings and cheatings has more than likely taken their secrets to his grave...

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What a player and a big loss to the game.

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Quote: magic piano "Terry Newton was a pantomime villain, probably the only one similar in RL at the minute is his arch nemesis Sean Long. He was a player the fans loved to hate, while fans of whichever team he played for loved him for his wholehearted efforts whenever taking to the pitch, his uncompromising style of play often crossed the boundaries of legality - just ask Long or Lee Gilmour - and his pushing of his own limitations ultimately lead to his cheating by using HGH in an ill-founded attempt to prolong his career.

Whatever your opinions on the drugs he took (my own that anyone who cheats deserves to be banned from playing again), there are few doubts he saw the foolishness of his actions when accepting his ban. He revealed a lot about himself in the months after the ban - the fears that other players were overtaking him that drove him to take HGH; the loathing he had for drugs following the addicition and death of his sister; the diginity in his response to being asked to "name & shame" other players taking HGH; his determination to educate youngsters in the game as to the folly of taking banned substances.

There will be much speculation as to the reasons he took his own life. Maybe seeing his former club Wigan reach the Grand Final & the celebrations associated with that struck him as to what he had thrown away; maybe the dichotomy of his actions against his stand against drugs was just too much; maybe it had nothing to do with rugby at all. People will cry and wring their hands and scream the RFL should have done more. Maybe they should - but who knows what they actually offered him? Players will come out of the woodwork and offer their sympathies & soundbites, but how many called him or text him after his ban? Fans will fill internet message boards with RIP's & "what a shames", but how many of these were building gallows for him in February?

The real tragedies from Terry Newton's suicide are for his family left behind. My thoughts & prayers are with his family & real friends. I never knew him or even met him but I can still express sorrow at a loss for those who loved him. The lessons to be learnt for all are of a life & career wasted & tainted by fear, selfishness & greed. The shame are of the players who will have breathed a sigh of relief at the news yesterday, knowing that the man who could have exposed their own failings and cheatings has more than likely taken their secrets to his grave...'"


excellent post.

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Quote: magic piano "

People will cry and wring their hands and scream the RFL should have done more. Maybe they should - but who knows what they actually offered him? Players will come out of the woodwork and offer their sympathies & soundbites, but how many called him or text him after his ban? Fans will fill internet message boards with RIP's & "what a shames", but how many of these were building gallows for him in February?

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Apparently according to Barrie Mac and Terry o’Connor he was not left and ignored, he was supported by all who new him Terry O’connor even spoke to him the day before his death and discussed a project they had in the pipeline.

Again this reinforces the point, what could the RFL do ?
If a bloke can talk to his mates and plan things then calmly go and kill himself leaving behind his own Kids and a very good network of friends what can anyone do?

Barry Mcdermot said “it’s only a game” and it is…. but unfortunately for Terry Newton it appeared to be much much more than that.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "Apparently according to Barrie Mac and Terry o’Connor he was not left and ignored, he was supported by all who new him Terry O’connor even spoke to him the day before his death and discussed a project they had in the pipeline.

Again this reinforces the point, what could the RFL do ?
If a bloke can talk to his mates and plan things then calmly go and kill himself leaving behind his own Kids and a very good network of friends what can anyone do?

Barry Mcdermot said “it’s only a game” and it is…. but unfortunately for Terry Newton it appeared to be much much more than that.'"


I have no doubts at all about the support, friendship & help offered by Terry O & Barrie Mac amongst other real friends of his. My point was aimed at those players who distanced themselves from him after his ban and will now come out with false platitudes - I don't know who they and suspect many on this forum will not, but they will & I hope they are able to live with the knowledge that they abandoned him in his time of need...

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I can understand why the question needs to be asked but I'm sorry, I don't see how the RFL can be even partly culpable for this. He broke the rules and was handed an appropriate punishment. From what I saw, he was full of remorse for what he did and took his punishment with little or no complaint e.g. he didn't make them test the B sample. Really sad story on every conceiveable level.

As this is a RL Forum, and as posting condolences in these circumstances makes me, on a personal level, feel a bit empty, I'll close by saying what a fantastic RL player he was. Whatever people say about Terry Newton, everyone can agree with that.

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The Original [b:1cc9zdce][size=200:1cc9zdce]LOWES OUT[/size:1cc9zdce][/b:1cc9zdce] Since 2007:



Quote: Hardcore Legend "RIP Terry,

The question that should be asked now is if you are banning a player for 2 years for or more do the RFL/governing body have a duty of care to that player to provide councelling, not only in relation to the offence commited i.e. drug use but also mentally too.

The fact that Terry was 31 years old and his mistake probably cost him his career could have been a contributing factor to this tragic occasion'"


Why? No one forced him to take drugs. If you're fired/suspended from a job for doing drugs do you get support? No and rightly so.

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