20,000 is far to big for salford they average around 4000 at home? Similar to our move they will get more fans and will eventually get over the 10,000 mark probably but that would be at best and could take a while so they would still have a half empty stadium. That aint going to look very good on tv or be good for atmosphere they should of made it around 13,000 and have space to expand like our ground.

Wire fans really make me laugh- little old Salford show a little bit of ambition and everyone's there to kick us down. It wasn't too long ago when you were in a similar position to ourselves playing at Wilderspool in front of 5-6k fans.

We may never hit the dizzy heights of Wigan, Saints, Leeds dare i say it- Warrington but at least were trying to progress as a club. We've got an old decrepid stadium were a sh*te club, we attempt to get a new staduim were delussional, we try an improve our squad- were recruiting a dads army!!! It seems nothing we do is good enough for some people (i include some Salford fans in that aswell!)

FWIW Barker is a complete tool and seems to pluck his exclusive stories from thin air but its about time we were linked with some good players for once! Briers is never going to come Solly but when Wire fans dismiss it purely because of our current stature really winds me up- It wasnt too long ago we were in a similar position, times change people!!

First phase i believe is only a 12k stadium, the additional phases and stadium increases is dependant on crowds etc...

Oh okay fair enough then

Don't judge all Wire fans on the comments of a few. I for one want to see a strong Salford in a modern stadium attracting good crowds. Anything that improves RL as a sport should be encouraged.

well said !

Why ?
Granted, some of the toilet facilities are very poor, outdated, even embarrassing, but that fact apart, why is it such a disgrace ?
Which other aspects are disgraceful ?
I've been attending The Willows for nearly 40 years and have never thought of the stadium in such a way.

Don't get me wrong, I wish Salford all the best with their plans, I just feel that their biggest problem will be attracting and keeping hold of 'new' fans.

I spend a lot of time in the Salford area working and the general impression I get is that Rugby League has a massive struggle getting people's attention when they have that big footballing neighbour on its doorstep. You certainly don't get that Rugby League 'buzz' that you feel in Wigan, St Helens, Warrington and, dare I say it, Widnes.

I think their marketing team has a massive job on its hands and if they can succeed in even doubling Salford's current crowd average then it will be a huge acheivement.

thats whatsisface then who's best mates with neil barker "journalist"

When Salford show ambition you get people on here saying why they shouldn't move into a new stadium, there's no point etc. If they decide to not build their new stadium and stay at the Willows then you'll get threads on here next year after they play Harlequins at home talking about the attendance, saying it's a disgrace, Salford shouldn't be in Super League and neither should Harlequins, they have no fans, Weaste is full of scallies and so on. And yet when I say Super League should be a 10 team competition (which Tony Smith seemed to also be advocating) then everyone says no we need more teams in SL not fewer!

If we want Super League to expand the only way forwards is for the weak links in Super League to improve. We can hardly claim that Warrington were anything special when we started talking about our new stadium in 1998. At that time we were usually near the bottom of the table like Salford are now and yes we might have had one good season when Jonathan Davies was with us four years earlier, but that was hardly a case for us being a big and successful club.....Salford had one good season a few years ago when they had Andrew Dunemann. The worrying thing for us when we started talking about a new stadium was that even when we were on top of the league for much of the 1993/94 season, our crowds were around the 5000 mark, so it was a hard sell for Peter Deakin to try and convince people (and sponsors) that we would have five figure crowds in the new stadium....

Salford for all its negative image, is a city which does have a future, the area around Salford Quays is top notch and the BBC is moving its media city there so it is a place which will get wealthy young professionals moving to it. At the moment we are in a difficult economic time but next time we enter a period of growth, Salford will be one of the parts of the north which grows quickly as investment moves in. A lot of northern cities face a grim future, sadly some of these are RL places like Bradford, which has no apparent potential but Salford does. So you can't blame Salford RL for trying to put something credible up there to at least try to capitalise on it, if they sat in the Willows with the image of flat cap pipe smokers in the Shed, they would never grow and just slowly sink down to the lower leagues like Swinton.

Their signings for next year look decent, Matty Smith looked quality against us last week and Saints are probably regretting letting him leave. Paleaaesina, Bailey and Vinnie Anderson are all first choice players in top teams this year. They aren't signing high profile big names on the whole they are getting understated consistent players eg Wild and Nero. Luke Patten was similar standard to Brett Hodgson in the NRL and is coming over at the same age Hodgson did, Hodgson ended up MoS. They aren't going to sign Lee Briers because it would leave us short of a halfback so unless we have a major coup about to be announced, and Briers is leaving to clear the way, that one can be written off.