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Speaking now about it...

Fill us in if you can 74, not able to listen to it

- He said they had a meeting this afternoon about it
- you have to plan a year ahead
- Might have it done for the end of the 2011 season
- The fans need to put pressure on him and fill it out so he has no choice

- Plans disscussed this afternoon were that; Fill in the corners, co-operate seats at the back of the South or take the roof off the North Stand and add another tier.

- He also said people have been in the shop asking about Season Tickets and when they're on Sale for next year and that he has had two phone calls over boxes in the North Stand but had to be rejected because they're full but they have been offered "tables"

The main message was: "Put the club under pressure then he has no choice!"

Why would anyone want the ground to be made all seater? Many people prefer to stand so we should have freedom of choice.

I could understand if the seating areas constantly sold out in rapid time forcing people who would prefer to sit into standing areas but as the South Stand is usually the first to sell out it would suggest that the opposite is actually the case.

My only problem with the HJ from day one is that I would prefer the West Stand to be a traditional home end. If it was up to me it would have been standing behind both sets of sticks - home and away ends - and seating down the sides. I accept that you can't please everyone all the time though, and I'm sure the club researched public opinion first, hence I stand in the West as I prefer standing behind the sticks. I'd prefer it to be more home fans than away in there but it's not the end of the world as it is now.

All seater though? No chance.

Thing is despite the back to back Wembley wins the marketing arm of the club has got to get busy. weve got to capture the fans that went to wembley that are probably football fans first and foremost or not even sports fans.
I overheard a guy in sainsbury's talking about going to wembley he said he was looking forward to going didnt understand it but will just keep looking at the scoreboard and will be happy if we are winning.

sounds stupid but what about an information leaflet describing the game in very simple terms and describe the players and how good they are their history and achievements...big up Matt King and Adrian Morley, these arent local celebs like stan the man... they are sporting celebrities, Morley and King would be more recognised in sydney than Gareth Barry Glen Johnson Mathew Upson and Phil Jagielka but many Wembley goers will be glued to that collection of $hit play mighty bulgaria tommorrow.

Got to get these fools converted first

IMO the best idea would be fill in the south-west corner as terracing. Have from the west stand round to half-way down the south as the home end. The remaining half of the south (where the screen is) can be for away fans.

Just build another, bigger stadium.

There's an ideal spot at the bottom of Fletcher Street.

It's all down to finance I think.

Filling both in the south/east corner the south and putting another tier in the south (for seating) would be my prefered option, with possibly east/north seating as well.

Loads of clubs have problems with the playing surface when it's all filled in.

Wouldn't fill in south/west unless there was some 'feature' to prevent any crowd trouble.

AG's comments seem reasonable. Good to see us talking about expanding the corporate side as well which I am sure is a very good source of income for the club.

Looking at our average attendance we need to find another two thousand plus people who will attend on a regaular basis. Bar a GF win can we see it going up by that much next year?

If it wasn't for the so called 'glory' supporters we'd have had only 10k at Wembley.It's never going to change so why this has to come up whenever we get to a big match is beyond me.I say welcome them with open arms otherwise we'd be outnumbered.

the best bet is too possibly do the following.

Fill in the corners of the stadium

north east. Seating, 1,250 seats.

South east. Standing, 2,000 extra. Have a segregation fence for unauthorised access to the east stand sitting area. Put the away fans in that corner with a 3rd of the existing south stand, to say the 20 metre line as away supporters. Again segregate this area and also in the concorse, so this is a seperate away area for them... This would possibly increase the away support from 3,000 - 3,500

South West. Fill in area so another 2,000 standing room is avaliable.

North west. Leave this area open. The sky screen can go here in a new position.

We could have a extra 5,000 onto the 13,500 capacity. Giving a 18,750 stadium, and if the north west can be filled in in the future. another 1,250 seats can be avaliable too be made too make a 20,000 stadium...

We can make this speculation, But lets be honnest. By the sounds of what andy Gatliffe said today. The stadium was designed with a extra capacity too be made in the future. And the blue prints were possibly drawn up in 2002 along with the current stadium blue prints...



And on the point of glory supporters... i agree that there were glory supporters there. But in honnest. we possibly have people in your average 10,000 - 12,000 people who can't get there for a veriaty of reasons. Work commitments, morgage, loans too pay off. I ahve been too 5 maybe 6 matches this year plus wembley. I assure you i aint no glory supporter. I have had a season ticket until 2008 when i couldn't afford too due too starting a new job and moving out of my parents too rented accomedation... even then i have been too as many as i can afford and avaliable for, and any i have not, i have managed to watch on sky sports when we are on.

Regards the core support v glory hunters (10k v 35k)

How many people would the HJ have in a season if you only counted one different person once. (wire only)

I reckon probably (just a wild guess) about 15k.
Then you have the people who class themselves as fans but don't have an interest in paying to go regardless of if we are successful or not.