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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "did you see shaun briscoe trying to tackle ade gardner a few weeks ago.. now THAT was laughable.
mathers defence may have been poor when he played for you, but it has been decent this season for us.'"
Or Martin Gleeson trying bo tackle Lee Smith last weekend just before Smith scored? That was laughable too! Gleeson never seems to have any trouble getting picked for england or GB though!
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| Lets be honest though, after widdop's preformance last weekend. He'd get in over mathers every single day of the week, and i couldnt care less if he doesnt get into first grade footy, because he's being kept out by a certain billy slater, who is the best fullback in the world and possibly the best player, but the fact that craig bellamy has moved him to stand off, and centre two pivotal positions, surely means he rates him as a player?
Do you think mathers is international class? seriously?
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Do you think mathers is international class? seriously?'"
Thats not the point, its about rewarding performances and picking players based on form from the available english qualified full backs. Nobody is saying that Mathers is the future, its about sending the right message out to the english players that good form will be rewarded.
Name me an english qualified full back thats in better form than Richie Mathers at the moment ?
By all means include Gareth Widdop so he can experience the international set up, then possibly play him from the bench as a utility back so McNamara can have a look at him, Widdop can play a few positions.
I just found it a bit ironic that Mathers put in one of the best full back displays of the season from a SL player against Bradford and it was right under the nose of the england coach yet he doesn`t even make the squad, its not like we are over run with in form full backs in SL.
It wasn`t just a one off good performance from Mathers against Bradford, he`s been in good form for a month.
BTW, this is coming from someone who has criticised Mathers in the past. At least i`m not a blinkered fan where Mathers is concerned unlike some Wigan fans who prefer to try and hang on to the belief that they got the better deal with Gleeson lol. At least i can recognise good performances from players ive criticised in the past where as certain Wigan fans probably have a tub of vaseline on their armchairs when Warrington are on sky in the hope that Mathers will make a mistake so they can whack a good one out.
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| Quote: Rob Wire "[sizeRichie Mathers[/size'"
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| Quote: Rob Wire "
BTW, this is coming from someone who has criticised Mathers in the past. At least i`m not a blinkered fan where Mathers is concerned unlike some Wigan fans who prefer to try and hang on to the belief that they got the better deal with Gleeson lol. At least i can recognise good performances from players ive criticised in the past where as certain Wigan fans probably have a tub of vaseline on their armchairs when Warrington are on sky in the hope that Mathers will make a mistake so they can whack a good one out.'"
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Superb.
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| Quote: NSW "
Careful with the vaseline. You don't want to get it all over your mother's settee.
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| Quote: NSW "
[sizeStuart Fielden.
Martin Gleeson sending Wigan out of the CC.[/size
Sorry couldn't resist.
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| Quote: Wire In The Final "Seen him many times doing cracking try saving tackles, usually one on one.'"
How about that cracking one on one tackle against Kingy at the HJ a few years back
Seriously though Mathers is a decent fullback prone to the occasional brain fart, its picked up on alot because its an awful position to play in if you do something silly. Hes not international quality but neither are any other English players at FB
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| Well, is it about the " in-form" player? This isnt club rugby league, its international. You dont want a player, that has been in form for the last month, but spent the last 2 years dossing about, doing absolutely nothing in the game!?.
The games against france? a chance for widdop to be tested?
I just want to point out, that if he's been inform for a month!? he's had 4 decent games. You cant make an international career from 4 games it doesnt work. As i said before he spent the last two years dossing around?
If your seriously suggesting him, worthy of a place in the england squad? why the hell are you replacing him?!
is that because he's not good enough?
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Well, is it about the " in-form" player? This isnt club rugby league, its international. You dont want a player, that has been in form for the last month, but spent the last 2 years dossing about, doing absolutely nothing in the game!?.
The games against france? a chance for widdop to be tested?
I just want to point out, that if he's been inform for a month!? he's had 4 decent games. You cant make an international career from 4 games it doesnt work. As i said before he spent the last two years dossing around?
If your seriously suggesting him, worthy of a place in the england squad? why the hell are you replacing him?!
is that because he's not good enough?
Yet another vaseline waster from Wigan.
Does Widdop's form over the last two years warrant selection or is it based upon his two games for the first team?
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| Quote: JonnyBates "Well, is it about the " in-form" player? This isnt club rugby league, its international. You dont want a player, that has been in form for the last month, but spent the last 2 years dossing about, doing absolutely nothing in the game!?.
The games against france? a chance for widdop to be tested?
I just want to point out, that if he's been inform for a month!? he's had 4 decent games. You cant make an international career from 4 games it doesnt work. As i said before he spent the last two years dossing around?
If your seriously suggesting him, worthy of a place in the england squad? why the hell are you replacing him?!
is that because he's not good enough?
The problem is that as a nation we do not have an international quality full back. So we don't have much choice but to go off recent form, Mathers is the in form English full back in the SL for my money. Another quality game last night too by the way.
I don't mind Widdop being picked, I know nothing about him and maybe he'll be first choice for years to come, no problem with that. But to suggest that right at this very minute he has a bigger claim to the number one shirt that Mathers is laughable.
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| He was awesome last night. MOM.
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| Quote: JonnyBates " spent the last 2 years dossing about, doing absolutely nothing in the game!?.
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Apart from winning challenge cups.
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