Penny was class for us last year it was a real shame he got recalled for that one game you guys had before the cup final (though obviously justified because you won the final!). He formed a great partnership with Craig Hall. His defence wasn't a problem and his enthusiasm was infectious towards the rest of the team and the fans.

I'd have him at Widnes anyday, now and if we get in in a couple of seasons time.

He has always looked dangerous against saints and has scored some really good tries against us, I remember a cup match at Knowsley Road when he scored a couple.
And his try saturday was well taken.

His problem is that his head goes down after one mistake.

I would swap Ade Gardner for him tommorrow.

Penny is a very exciting player to watch and has scored some spectacular tries but if you were to swap him for reilly (for example) you would be weakening the team rather than strengthening it.

Dont see how to be brutally honest...

Riley lacks the pace and attacking prowess of Penny... and has still come up with some handling errors that have lead directly to opposition tries.... Riley is simply a steady winger like the David Hodgsons of the world

Penny all day long for me.... he isnt going to get worse he is only going to get better...and its scandalous that its going to be at another club just because Jimmy lowes dropped him when he had no other ideas left in his empty head....

Like Ive said before We are willingly accepting Mathers Mistakes (approx 30 points for the opposition id wager) weve made calamity Matt King a super hero now after 7 decent games..... so its just a chapter of shame on the clubs and some fans part as regards to kevin Penny in my opinion.

I've been pro-Kev since the day he scorched down the wing at Headingley, and I still am to this day. In fact, it still makes me sad that by the time I'd got to the clubshop all those bloody 'catch me if you can' t-shirts had gone. If I had one, I'd wear it in support at every match. As it is, I haven't seen one for years so come on all you t-shirt owners, ger'rum out, wear your Penny with pride.

Anyhow, back to him ... My only sort of negative about him is purely £££'s. I haven't a clue what he earns, not a clue. My mind says that he'll be on a decent screw as he signed a deal when he was the hottest property in RL, and since Offiah. So lets say for example he's on £45k a year. Now, I don't know what £45k gets you, but if it gets you a good standard SL player that Smith would like at Warrington then I think we have to lose him, ie, somebody that could just slot straight in immediately. If it gets you a sort of half decent, he could do a job player then I'd rather keep Penny as a sort of investment if you like, as his potential is massive, and that potential could be one day realised so it's worth persisting if that makes sense.

We can all sit here starry eyed and recall pennys tries in a team that underachieved and won nothing.

The bottom line is Tony Smith has worked with him up close for over a year now and has deemed him not good enough for the first team... he has not been hounded out by the supporters... he has been moved out on loan by the coach because he doesn't appear to feature in his immediate plans.

People on here are going on about Mathers/ Rileys mistakes.... they mean absolutely nothing.. all players make mistakes. Riley is our leading try scorer and Mathers is easily the best fullback at the club... Some people seem to be of the opinion that 'riley makes as many mistakes as penny.. so he should play because he is faster'..... its not a 100m race is a game of rugby league.

The bottom line is Penny isn't deemed good enough for the first team squad.

Neithers Mike Cooper and he has a wembley winners medal...



and I bet he's also pulling on a Wire shirt very soon....

I'm one of coopers biggest fans... but i had no arguments with him going out on loan.

With Morley, Carvell, the new Wood and Solomona.. there was no place for him in the first team squad... Carvells injury now means Cooper will be recalled.

If Riley broke his ankle do you think Penny would be re-called and put into the first team squad again?

No I think He's finished at the club regardless of his performance.....I watched the Boy Williams when He got a start (ahead of Penny) he was visibly nervous visibly ordinary and quite clearly not ready for Superleague. so if Riley is ever out long term we can look forward to a centre playing on the wing and a second rower playing centre.

I did liked the bit about Penny being in a team that underachieved and won nothing.....

Where were you between 1992 and 2008.......?

because there's a long long long long list of players underachieving and winning ab-so-lute-ley nothing for you to thumb through.....

Tony Smith is due to appear Paul Wood's fans forum on Thursday night. Kevin Penny might be an interesting point for discussion at that...

yea i liked that bit as well... well not at the time I didn't.



watching a team that underachieved and won nothing.... whats your point?

Is it that, according to my way of thinking, ALL players that played in teams from 1992 to 2008 are not good enough for the current team?

Why all the assumptions that Penny is finished at the club other than for comments by Eddie/Stevo and Chariots O'flannel on Sky. Are Cooper, McCarthy, Blythe, Mitchell also finished?
Here's hoping its just to get him superleague fit and aware without the HJ booboys on his back.

I dont think he is finished at the club.

I think he needs to improve a few aspects of his game until he can be in contention for a first team spot... After watching his lackluster displays for the under 20's (i imagine its hard to get motivated when you have come all the way down from SL hat-tricks and dream team selection), its obvious that's not how he is going to improve. Regular SL starts is the only way its going to happen.

The fact that he has moved away from his young baby and mrs shows his determination to make the most of this chance.... Hopefully a good spell at quins will see him come back an improved player, in contention for a first team place again.

KP will get his chance next year I'd hope, when Spider heads back down under. The idea of Hicks staying on for another year is just paper talk, a leading question by the journo: "IF you were offered an extension, would you take it?" He's already stated he's heading home.

That'll be the making of KP in Wire colours. Until then I like to think TS is just grooming him, but with (what I'd imagine) a good salary under his belt it's not surprising he hasn't moved anywhere in a hurry.

Does anyone know if we (quins) can play him in the cup?