I don't know i'm going off Odemwingie.

The penalty count was 11-8 in your favour.

Regular SL games since 2007.

With Silverwood refereeing, won 4 lost 14 - win ratio 22%
All other referees added together, won 40, lost 30 - win ratio 57%

Not straight. Four letters, B _ _ T

I don't know what game you were watching from our perspective he gave you everything he could to be honest. We got penalised for the same things you got away with. with a penalty count in your favour you still couldn't make it pay. You can't blame that on the ref.

I honestly beleive that Silverwood is Bent but is also very clever about it and it doesn't just come down to the penalty count but also general decisions.

1. In the first half wire where completing their sets well and giving saints the ball back within their 10 only for Silverwood to releive them with an offside penalty 3 times out of five.

2. Touch judge gives a 20 meter tap and he changes it to a drop out

3. Perfect view of Woody having the ball stripped yet he gives a knock on

4. Gidley knocking the ball dead which should have been a drop out and him giving a 20 meter re-start.

He stopped Warrington from putting Saints under an increased period of intense preassure but is then clever enough to even things out across the games. Wire won the penalty count but every penalty was in a nothing position or at a point where we where not preassurizing the Sants Line.

Those stats above make interesting reading, would love to see other sides win / loss ratios with him in the middle.

For me his biggest decision was in not awarding the knockon on Saints line when we had the ascendency. Maybe the ball went backwards, maybe not, but when a player has his back to his own line then knocks the ball virtually straight down then I would say that over 90% of the time refs will award a knockon.

I honestly believe that at some point in 2006/2007 something happened that turned Silverwood against Warrington.

I guess its all very well having a penalty count of 10-8 in our favour . However i seem to remember getting a lot of ours on the first tackle In B0llocks positions.

one in particular on there line. with broken play 2nd tackle. Gave a penalty which allowed them to set the defence :s weird

Oooh, I like a challenge. Right, here we go, using Thelonius' 2007 start (NB: Win/Loss is shown in American format as it's easier, so it's W/L) with totals at the very bottom:

2007 SL Games (H - Home, A - Away, MM - Millenium Magic)

St Helens 2-3 (H: 1-1, A: 1-2)
Leeds 2-5 (H: 1-3, A: 1-2)
Bradford 2-2 (H: 2-0, A: 0-2)
Hull 3-1 (H: 2-0, A: 1-0, MM: 0-1)
Huddersfield 4-2 (H: 3-1, A: 1-1)
Wigan 2-1 (H: N/A, A: 2-1)
Warrington 1-2 (H: 1-2, A: N/A)
Wakefield 5-1 (H: 4-0, A: 1-1)
Harlequins 0-3 (H: N/A, A: 0-3)
Catalans 2-1 (H: 2-0, A: 0-1)
Hull KR 2-3 (H: 1-0, A: 0-3, MM: 1-0)
Salford 2-3 (H: 1-1, A: 1-2)

2008 SL Games (H - Home, A - Away, MM - Millenium Magic)

St Helens 6-0 (H: 5-0, A: 1-0)
Leeds 4-0 (H: 2-0, A: 1-0, MM: 1-0)
Bradford 2-4 (H: 2-0, A: 0-3, MM: 0-1)
Hull 2-1 (H: 0-1, A: 1-1)
Huddersfield 2-2 (H: 1-2, A: 1-0)
Wigan 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Warrington 3-5 (H: 0-1, A: 3-4)
Wakefield 1-3 (H: 1-2, A: 0-1)
Harlequins 2-1 (H: 1-1, A: 1-0)
Catalans 3-1 (H: 1-0, A: 2-1)
Hull KR 1-4 (H: 1-1, A: 0-3)
Castleford 1-3 (H: 1-2, A: 0-1)

2009 SL Games (H - Home, A - Away, MM - Magic Weekend)

St Helens 3-1 (H: 2-1, A: 1-0)
Leeds 2-0 (H: 1-0, A: 1-0)
Bradford 4-2 (H: 1-1, A: 3-1)
Hull 0-3 (H: 0-1, A: 0-2)
Huddersfield 2-2 (H: 2-1, A: 0-1)
Wigan 3-1 (H: 1-1, A: 2-0)
Warrington 1-5 (H: 1-2, A: 0-2, MW: 0-1)
Wakefield 2-0, H: 2-0, A: N/A)
Harlequins 1-1 (H: 1-0, A: 0-1)
Catalans 3-3 (H: 2-1, A: 1-2)
Hull KR 4-3 (H: 2-0, A: 1-3, MW: 1-0)
Salford 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Castleford 1-0 (H: N/A, A: 1-0)
Crusaders 0-3 (H: 0-1, A: 0-2)

2010 SL Games (H - Home, A - Away)

St Helens 1-0 (H: 1-0, A: N/A)
Leeds 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Bradford N/A
Hull 1-0 (H: 1-0, A: N/A)
Huddersfield 1-0 (H: 1-0, A: N/A)
Wigan 1-0 (H: N/A, A: 1-0)
Warrington 0-2 (H: 0-1, A: 0-1)
Wakefield N/A
Harlequins 1-0 (H: 1-0, A: N/A)
Catalans 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Hull KR 1-0 (H: 1-0, A: N/A)
Salford 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Castleford 0-1 (H: N/A, A: 0-1)
Crusaders N/A

TOTALS

St Helens 12-4 (H: 10-2, A: 2-2) - 75% Win Percentage
Leeds 8-6 (H: 4-3, A: 3-3, MM: 1-0) - 57% Win Percentage
Bradford 8-8 (H: 5-1, A: 3-6, MM: 0-1) - 50% Win Percentage
Hull 6-5 (H: 3-2, A: 2-3, MM: 1-0) - 55% Win Percentage
Huddersfield 9-6 (H: 7-4, A: 2-2) - 60% Win Percentage
Wigan 6-3 (H: 1-1, A: 5-2) - 67% Win Percentage
Warrington 5-14 (H: 2-6, A: 3-7, MM: 0-1) - 26% Win Percentage
Wakefield 8-4 (H: 7-2, A: 1-2) - 67% Win Percentage
Harlequins 4-5 (H: 3-1, A: 1-4) - 44% Win Percentage
Catalans 8-6 (H: 5-1, A: 3-5) - 57% Win Percentage
Hull KR 8-10 (H: 5-1, A: 1-9, MM: 2-0) - 44% Win Percentage
Salford 2-5 (H: 1-1, A: 1-4) - 29% Win Percentage
Castleford 2-4 (H: 1-2, A: 1-2) - 33% Win Percentage
Crusaders 0-3 (H: 0-1, A: 0-2) - 0% Win Percentage

There's your stats, matey. Do what you will with them!

To call Sliverwood bent is laughable.

Saints were the best team on the night however silverwood did NOT help. We didn't play as well as we could of but i suppose it's better to lose early on in the league then right at the end (or in playoffs). Hopefully we will just get them back when they play us at the HJ.

we might not have beat them at knowsley road for 16 years or what ever, but we can look forward to beating the at there new stadium, heres to the future!

You lot are letting yourselves down by venting at the ref. He wasn't biased and he didn't favour Saints or help us out in any way.