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Quote: Wires71 "Well no, it was a present. I did read it though but didnt want to keep it. I am quite selective about what makes my book case and this didn't quite cut it.'"



i'm bugggered if i know where my copy is, its been passed round several friends who can only get through the first couple of chapters then decide to give it a miss. No one seems to know who had it last, can't say i'm that bothered though.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "A really great, funny book.....However, the last chapter is probably the saddest thing I ever read, and to anybody who gives the book a go, I challenge them not to have a tear in the eye after reading it.'"


Correctamundo - I read it on holiday last year. A brilliant book and the last chapter is a real tear jerker.

Wayne Bennett's book is another great read, some inspiriational stuff in there. Some recommended sports reads -

Jan the Man - Jan Molby
Back from the Brink - Paul McGrath
Letting the Big Dog Eat - John Daly
A Life in Rugby League - Mal Reilly

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Quote: magic piano "Got to agree with that.

Also Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (like 1984 and just as accurate in prophecy); Birdsong by Sebastien Faulkes (best WW1 novel ever); and to be disturbed & challenged Deadkidsongs by Toby Litt (just superb, but tough reading).'"


I don't read much fiction but Birdsong is a fantastic book, I read it when I was travelling. It's like watching a 10 hour long war film.

A book recommendation for Wires71 is "The Fall of Apartheid" by Robert Harvey. You might have seen the Channel 4 drama "Endgame" which was shown last year and got repeated due to its good reviews, that drama was based on the book. Basically the (true) story of a British PR agent of a gold mining company, a professor from the University of Stellenbosch and the exiled Thabo Mbeki hosting secret talks in the UK, which are being spied on by the apartheid security services, to start the negotiations which ended up with Mandela's release and apartheid laws being repealed. As he says in the book, it's one of those situations where the truth could have been written as a political thriller. Mbeki comes out of it very well, ironically seeing as he was generally seen as a disappointment after his 10 years as President of South Africa, back in the late 80s he was a key figure in bringing apartheid to a close.

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Just finished The Black House by Stephen King and Peter Straub. First read it and really enjoyed it years ago, and enjoyed it just as much this time. Helps a little if you read The Talisman by the same authors first.

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We seem to have alot off reconmmendations for books.So i can i suggest we put them if diferent catergories.
Like best Ficton,best auto biography, and so on.I think you get the picture.

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How about books to avoid?
Stephen King - Carrie

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Quote: Wire In The Final "
How about books to avoid?
Stephen King - Carrie'"

IMO Stephen King books are either absolutely amazing (the aforementioned 'Talisman' and 'Black House' for example) or very poor. I cannot put into words the utter disappointment I felt after investing weeks into completing 'The Dark Tower' series of books (anyone who has read the full series will know what I mean).

Another favourite of mine is 'Good Omens' by Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I don't read much fiction but Birdsong is a fantastic book, I read it when I was travelling. It's like watching a 10 hour long war film.

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I have that book in my 'intray' at the moment and I'm waiting for a reason to kick into it. I've read the first chapter which didn't quite grab me as I'm used to reading fact. Is it really worth a go?

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Actually, forgot Paul McGrath's autobiography is outstanding. Really gritty & honest. Maybe the best I've read. [They're all I read]

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Dan Browns Da Vinci Code was a book I really enjoyed and have just bought his new one, The Lost Symbol so I'll let you know what thats like when I get chance to read it.

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Quote: Garrincha's Dog "I have that book in my 'intray' at the moment and I'm waiting for a reason to kick into it. I've read the first chapter which didn't quite grab me as I'm used to reading fact. Is it really worth a go?'"


Well I'm the same as you I tend to read mainly fact....biographies, political books etc, but I got into Birdsong

The first chapter or so seems a bit more like a girly romance novel with a bit of literotica thrown in. Basically thats introducing some characters that will crop up throughout the novel and also, I think, throwing you off the scent by making the reader think that this is going to be a nice easy read bit of romantic literature.

Once he gets to the front, and other characters start to be introduced in the war, it becomes engrossing. If you are claustrophobic be careful of reading the sections where they are tunnelling under the German lines to plant mines, it will feed your nightmares.

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Currently on the bedside table.....

[iRestless[/i by Wiilliam Boyd
[iThe Great Crash 1929[/i by J.K. Galbraith
[iA Short History of Almost Everything[/i by Bill Bryson
[iLiverpool City RLFC by Mike Brocken

Things I'd recommend anyone to read...

Anything by Roddy Doyle, Ian McEwan ([iSaturday[/i is probably my favourite modern novel), The Rebus Novels by Ian Rankin...

Just getting into Philip Roth. Whoever mentioned Saul Bellow, well he's probably next on my list of US 20th Century literature.

Favourite book of all time is probably Jane Eyre.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Well I'm the same as you I tend to read mainly fact....biographies, political books etc, but I got into Birdsong

The first chapter or so seems a bit more like a girly romance novel with a bit of literotica thrown in. Basically thats introducing some characters that will crop up throughout the novel and also, I think, throwing you off the scent by making the reader think that this is going to be a nice easy read bit of romantic literature.

Once he gets to the front, and other characters start to be introduced in the war, it becomes engrossing. If you are claustrophobic be careful of reading the sections where they are tunnelling under the German lines to plant mines, it will feed your nightmares.'"

I must be one of the few people who don't rate 'Birdsong'. Long-winded and the romance is over-emphasised. There are better insights into war in Murakami's stuff - or read Wilfred Owen.

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Read FA Confidential by David Davies the other month. Was a highly enjoyable read. Got a rare insight in how things operate in the FA, and also first hand the scandals that hit them when Eriksson was in charge of the national team.

Graham Poll's autobiography is also a tremendous read.

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