You're totally wrong on both points fella. To put to you in real laymans terms (as you say you drive on motorways a hell of a lot) have you seen the sticker on the back of lorries that says 'Why tax our haulage industries to death?'

As for your second point I work for one of these third party hauliers who service the big four supermarkets on a daily basis. We put around 500 pallets into each RDC over a 24 hour period. You say that supermarkets produce there own goods, I say that supermarkets 'own brand' products are made by other companies. My company hauls 'own brand' products on a daily basis.

....A car sticker isn't exactly proof... ....Why not just have one that says 'Let me drive for free' or 'I'm a Lorry Driver, that's why I hog the road', for that is what the haulage industry really wants.

Keep fantasising about how important individual haulage firms are....The supermarkets dictate to them, not the other way around....

This is one of my biggest hates on the motorway along with people who insist on driving in the middle lane without actually overtaking anybody. You usually find that these 2 situations are a major cause to motorway congestion.

Middle lane hoggers... ......I must admit, I enjoy nothing better than going past them on the inside lane, beeping my horn, whilst giving them random hand gestures....It can liven up an otherwise dull day...

...Ask yourself, who is hunting whose business?....I reckon its more the hauliers scrambling for the Supermarket's contracts, than the other way around.

Ultimately, its the simple world of dog eat dog capitalism.....The supermarkets are making bucketloads of cash, your hauliers are scratching for a living because there are so many of them undercutting one another, desparate to get the supermarket's business....

fantastic! three pages on a road that links two of the biggest shatholes in the country.

Not quite sure what there is to comment on, as your sole argument seems to be the misguided idea that the Haulage industry holds the key to the British economy and so should be treated leniently when it comes to tax issues, rather than just being like many other businesses that have to COMPETE with their competitors.

What about the m25

Read your posts fella. You've contradicted yourself so many times on this thread I've lost count.

....Feel free to highlight those contradictions....

Lets get to the point here, what we all want to know.

Is my Grandad right, and Smartprice beans that retail at 8p, are really Heinz without the "fancy-dan" packaging. Am I paying for the label ?

Milk in different company stores are usually the same. Infact alot of times the same milk is in two/three different containers and different prices.

you moved to the chiller section?