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| Quote: Southstander05 "Screw picking on individual players, simple truth, we are a million miles away from the likes of Australia, question is, why ?
Till we start fielding Super League teams of ENGLISH players, and less 'imports' - gonna be same old.
What was the stat tonight, only 50% of al SL players this year playing 5 or more games were English......
Outclassed,outplayed,outhought, and much fitter.......'"
Absolutely spot on and as was pointed out on another forum, let's get back to using some ball-playing skills, instead of employing a boring kicking game, that's more akin to Twickenham.
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| Thought James Graham was our best player last night.
Tomkins and Eastmond are our best half back pairing at the moment so the decision to play them was the right one IMO.
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| Quote: Tin Soldier "Thought James Graham was our best player last night.
Tomkins and Eastmond are our best half back pairing at the moment so the decision to play them was the right one IMO.'"
nah burgess by a mile....and as for tomkins being a good to great player..another nah..average at very best..
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Tomkins was not really involved, he will learn from it though and so will all the young players. I just wish we would of had some more experience out there, some players did not deserve to miss out this year IMO. Senior had one of his best seasons and Pryce is a very dangerous player but not a half back he should of been on a wing. Gleeson (although you lot probably won't agree) is the best defensive centre we have and althouh he has done nothing in attack all year he should of been included for his defence, it's not like trying to play attacking centres would of worked anyway! Tony Smith having the balls to play so many young players was great and I applaud him for it but I think he should of thought a little more about experience ad what the aussies would actually be serving up. I am happy about this Tournament as it is an improvement on the WC and there are loads of positives to take from it, well done Tony Smith and the boys. They now have to go to aus next year and get to the final and either beat aus or have a lower points margin, we must improve again next year, no backwards steps from now untill the WC could see us in with a chance.
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| I have more faith in Tomkins and Eastmond, than I ever have in Burrow and McGuire.
Tomkins does need to become more of a team player though.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I have more faith in Tomkins and Eastmond, than I ever have in Burrow and McGuire.
Tomkins does need to become more of a team player though.'"
Hey lets not write Myler off just yet, or for that matter Ratchford. my problem is whos going to replace peacock and morley cant be 2 many years left in them at top level
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| Quote: stubblesteve "Hey lets not write Myler off just yet, or for that matter Ratchford. my problem is whos going to replace peacock and morley cant be 2 many years left in them at top level
If he keeps progressing, no reason why Cooper can't.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: stubblesteve "Hey lets not write Myler off just yet, or for that matter Ratchford. my problem is whos going to replace peacock and morley cant be 2 many years left in them at top level
Mossop is definitely one for the future. He's already a monster and still only 20 years of age.
Like Peacock & Morley I'm sure he will move up to the front row in a few years.
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| Quote: stubblesteve "Hey lets not write Myler off just yet, or for that matter Ratchford. my problem is whos going to replace peacock and morley cant be 2 many years left in them at top level
Graham and Burgess will be the mainstays, like Morley and Peacock have. I think Crabtree may have played his way into becoming a regular too.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Graham and Burgess will be the mainstays, like Morley and Peacock have. I think Crabtree may have played his way into becoming a regular.'"
Louis Mccarthy Scarsbrook looks big enough to develop into a quality prop, he certainly has a great pair of ball playing hands and pace. The last time he played for England he looked impressive, he`s always improving the more you see him. He looks to be going the Jamie Peacock route, a quality 2nd rower that looks just as comfortable at prop.
As for Sam Tomkins, he will improve a lot more when he doesn`t have to play 2nd fiddle to the likes of Thomas Leuluai at club level and Kevin Sinfield at international level, the more game time he has as an organiser and a 1st reciever then the more i think he`ll improve.
Wigan need a decent coach to bring the likes of Tomkins along and develop him as a better all round team player, he`s certainly an exciting prospect just like Eastmond with ball in hand, he just needs that raw youth coaching out of him which will help him mature as a player.
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| Quote: Rob Wire "Louis Mccarthy Scarsbrook looks big enough to develop into a quality prop, he certainly has a great pair of ball playing hands and pace. The last time he played for England he looked impressive, he`s always improving the more you see him. He looks to be going the Jamie Peacock route, a quality 2nd rower that looks just as comfortable at prop.
As for Sam Tomkins, he will improve a lot more when he doesn`t have to play 2nd fiddle to the likes of Thomas Leuluai at club level and Kevin Sinfield at international level, the more game time he has as an organiser and a 1st reciever then the more i think he`ll improve.
Wigan need a decent coach to bring the likes of Tomkins along and develop him as a better all round team player, he`s certainly an exciting prospect just like Eastmond with ball in hand, he just needs that raw youth coaching out of him which will help him mature as a player.'"
I think there's a few forwards kicking around that if they progress look to have decent futures.
I was surprised that Luke Burgess didn't make this squad to be honest, add to him LMS, Cooper, Prescott, Adamson, Harrison, Lunt, J.Tomkins and a few others, I think the future of the pack looks safe.
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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: Les Boyd Is God "and as for tomkins being a good to great player..another nah..average at very best..'" ok
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| Hate to say this but there was a HUGE mitake in selections under smith.
MYLER - Not ready/ little experience.
TOMKINS - paper thin (just look at ausies 6 and 7), tackled with ball too often, terrible kicking to hands of slater.
BRIDGE - Absolutely ludicrous.
to start.
6 and 7 were major failings in the team. Eastmond for me shows more than TOMKINS.
It should have been dare i say it.
BROUGH - He is an awesome place/goal kicker and slater would have been made to work, Has plenty experience, good defender and takes on the line well. About the best british hb re: goldthorpe last 2 years.
PRYCE - would be an ideal partner for brough and has more presence on the filed.
ATKINS - shame he was injured.
If it was on form Brough awould have been in and MYLER and BRIDGE nowhere near.
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| If we had more young players of Tomkins' quality, the future of English Rugby League would look a lot brighter than it currently does.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Hate to say this but there was a HUGE mitake in selections under smith.
MYLER - Not ready/ little experience.
TOMKINS - paper thin (just look at ausies 6 and 7), tackled with ball too often, terrible kicking to hands of slater.
BRIDGE - Absolutely ludicrous.
to start.
6 and 7 were major failings in the team. Eastmond for me shows more than TOMKINS.
It should have been dare i say it.
BROUGH - He is an awesome place/goal kicker and slater would have been made to work, Has plenty experience, good defender and takes on the line well. About the best british hb re
Until John Kear is the next England boss you can only wish.
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