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Quote: bombheadwire "never mind blythe and pickersgill. what about johnson he needs to go.'"


Off to Wigan according to the rumours and it showed last night.

Johnson and Rauhihi should be nowhere near the Wembley 17. Rau has gone back to his old ways of drive it in and throw it back no matter what!.

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Blythe was shocking, missed loads of tackles

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Unfortunately I think these players are NL standard. However we have enough talent coming through.

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Picks was looking promising at the beginning of 2008. Very aggressive tackling and I thought that was the season he was going to impress but he went and knackered himself long term away at Wakey.

I do rate him but last night was a difficult time to be judging youngsters/players without a lot of SL game time.

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Quote: Coops "Off to Wigan according to the rumours and it showed last night.

Johnson and Rauhihi should be nowhere near the Wembley 17. Rau has gone back to his old ways of drive it in and throw it back no matter what!.'"


Johnson meant to be off to Wakey according to rumour now.

Wigan aren't meant to be signing anyone.

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Quote: Antro "Don't be too hard on Blythe, he gets very few chances in the first team and is probably trying too hard, meaning mistakes are bound to creep in.

I used to think Cooper was a bit of a liability on the field, but as he has been given a longer run in the team he has settled into it, and is now looking like a solid player, with plenty of potential.

It was a tough game for many of our kids last night, there were a lot of them out there, playing against a fired up, in form Wigan side.

Picks is probably destined for a career outside SL, but far too early to make that kind of judegement on Blythe.'"


blythe was a fixture in lowes team at the end of last year and the start of this, like we've all said, deservingly so, he's not took his chance though, he's one of a few players that doesn't seem to have improved since our tony turned up.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Johnson meant to be off to Wakey according to rumour now.

Wigan aren't meant to be signing anyone.'"


Darryl Griffin i heard

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I thought McCarthy was excellent some really big hits.

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Quote: Lefty "I thought McCarthy was excellent some really big hits.'"


Here, here. Aggressive, enthusiastic and brave. The lad has gone under the radar for a while but now he has gone full time expect to see a lot more from him.

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Quote: Natters "If he is in the team then the team have to play to his strengths and use his best attribute - speed.

All too often when he is in the team he is seen as just a liability or weakness because we dont seem capable of playing to his strengths. I was crying out for someone to put him away in clear ground last night but it never happened and never looked like happening.'"
Yep, although one thing I would say is that it was only his second game under Smith. You'd like to think that if Smith decides he is going to work with him over the pre-season with a view to getting him back in the first team, then he will learn how to use his skills.

As you say, positional sense may be his biggest weakness at the moment, yet surely somebody like Smith can coach this? Look how Briers' defence has improved for an example.

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I hate to say this but Blythe was absolutely terrible.

The other player who seems to escape criticism is Mathers though; he constantly looks shaky under a kick and never beats the first man on kicks returns. Lacks pace.

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Quote: mark_m "I hate to say this but Blythe was absolutely terrible.

The other player who seems to escape criticism is Mathers though; he constantly looks shaky under a kick and never beats the first man on kicks returns. Lacks pace.'"
He only missed one to be fair, and that was a good kick behind him. He takes everything else.

He certainly doens't lack pace.

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Quote: Dave T "He only missed one to be fair, and that was a good kick behind him. He takes everything else.

He certainly doens't lack pace.'"


He doesn't inspire confidence. And if he had good pace and/ or evasive skills he would be beating players which he never does. His best asset is his communication skills.

Compared to the best FBs at other clubs (Wellens, Webb, Hodgson) he is very ordinary.

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Quote: "Lacks pace.'"


He beat Ryan Hall chasing a ball against Leeds and he's fast.

Rau has been consistently one of our worst players, if he could recapture the form he had against Leeds in the playoffs a couple of years ago then he could be one of the best forwards in SL.

It's too early to judge on Blythe but yesterday he had one of his worst performances in a Wire shirt.

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Quote: mark_m "He doesn't inspire confidence. And if he had good pace and/ or evasive skills he would be beating players which he never does. His best asset is his communication skills.

Compared to the best FBs at other clubs (Wellens, Webb, Hodgson) he is very ordinary.'"
I disagree, I think he is a different player to them though.

One thing he does very well is be in position for the deep kicks. He then just runs straight back at the defence. Whilst this allows him to be tackled, it does make us as many metres as possible.

He averages 7.7m per carry
Wellens averages 6.3m
Webb averages 6.6m
Hodgson averages 6.5m

He does make less tackle busts, but he seems to go down to get a quick ptb, I'm not sure whether this has always been his style, or a change in style in response to his serious injury.

Mathers plays up in the line a lot like an extra half, whereas a lot of the others are traditional 1's.

Tackle Completion

Mathers - 89.4%
Webb - 81%
Wellens - 88%
Hodgson - 77.4%


Errors

Mathers - 10 (1 per game)
Webb - 11 (0.6 per game)
Wellens - 19 (0.9 per game)
Hodgson - 34 (1.7 per game)

So he makes more metres than the others, his tackle completion is better, and his error count is similar.

He's doing okay by me. Last night they scored a few tries where he had made the try saving tackle. On the next play nobody covered for him.

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