After we dismally lost at Celtic both Wigan and Warrington had 14 points and we are well in the eight now. It does help us though that our points difference is over 100+ despite also having a dismal start.

Exactly my point. We've had the oppotunity to turn it around and assure ourselves of a top 8 finish and we haven't, which is why none of the league games left (including last night) should be taken lightly. The poor start to the season has had the biggest effect on our current league position but we have had ample time to turn it around. I take Dave T's point about us improving as a team and currently having a more successful season than any other for 19 years but does that mean we should just sit back and allow the playoffs to pass us by? To me that comes back to the same old Wire attitude: "we've done just enough, we don't need to do any more". Instead of thinking "we've made it to Wembley, who knows what we could achieve in the playoffs!".

Since Round 16 the fixtures have beenWigan
Wakefield (h)
Hull KR (a)
Quins (h)
Cats (h)
Bulls (a)
Leeds (h)
Saints (a)
Wire (h)

Wire
Cats (a)
Hull (h)
Celtic (a)
Saints (h)
Hudds (a)
Reds (h)
Leeds (a)
Wigan (a)

Taking out last night's game, the difference was one win, where you got a great in against Leeds at home, and we lost in the last second against Leeds away.

The fact that we won in the semi means that we both won the same amount of games during that period.

There's really not much difference, and it's hardly like we have collapsed.

We are still well within reach of the playoffs, with two of our last three games against our rivals.