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Quote: SEB "And what exactly was Matt King doing when Pelo breezed in unchallenged on Saturday?'"


Well its basic Wing play to me

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I want King on the wing. Preferably with another wing and a fuselage attached with the words 'Qantas' on the side.

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "Well its basic Wing play to me'"


So which one is better - Penny actually making a tackle, albeit sometimes going over the tryline with his opposite number or allowing him to get an offload away - or King, looking totally lost and not laying a finger on anyone?

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Quote: SEB "So which one is better - Penny actually making a tackle, albeit sometimes going over the tryline with his opposite number or allowing him to get an offload away - or King, looking totally lost and not laying a finger on anyone?'"


I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing. If matt king did that he wouldnt let anyone through

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[quote="Bob Paisley":y3z7f3as]A lot of teams beat us, do a lap of honour and don't stop running. They live too long on one good result. I remember Jimmy Adamson crowing after Burnley had beaten us once and that his players were in a different league. At the end of the season they were.[/quote:y3z7f3as] [quote="WireFanatic II":y3z7f3as]Why, if it isn't Catalancs, RLFANS answer to a question no-one asked![/quote:y3z7f3as]:5414.jpg



Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing. If matt king did that he wouldnt let anyone through'"


Jesus wept.

And if Penny did that they would waltz through the 10 metre gap between him and the rest of the defence (King mainly).

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I think people need to look a bit further than just King or Penny for the weaknesses on that left hand side. Anderson and Monaghan to be exact.

Everyone is always saying how good our right side is. Well look at the people out there, Hicks, Gleeson, Westwood, Briers. 3 out of 4 of them barely set a foot wrong, ever, yet on the left hand side...

The whole left side needs a shake up, not just the centre and wing

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Quote: Steve51 "No he wouldn't but to continually do that he would be guilty of defending the field rather than defending by reacting to the play.'"


Play what you see. All about making the right decision which many of our players seemingly can't.

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Quote: keithcun "Jesus wept.

And if Penny did that they would waltz through the 10 metre gap between him and the rest of the defence (King mainly).'"


Its man marking. You stay 1 foot outside the opposite Winger. Then you aint gonna get caught out. If everyone marked their man there would be no 10 metre gap

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "Its man marking. You stay 1 foot outside the opposite Winger. Then you aint gonna get caught out. If everyone marked their man there would be no 10 metre gap'"


In fact this forum Makes me laugh.
Lay off Penny , Lay off Penny. Hes young, Hes Learning.
When are people gonna wake up and realize the Lowes knows better than you keyboard Rugby players and stop being so sentimental?

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[quote="Bob Paisley":y3z7f3as]A lot of teams beat us, do a lap of honour and don't stop running. They live too long on one good result. I remember Jimmy Adamson crowing after Burnley had beaten us once and that his players were in a different league. At the end of the season they were.[/quote:y3z7f3as] [quote="WireFanatic II":y3z7f3as]Why, if it isn't Catalancs, RLFANS answer to a question no-one asked![/quote:y3z7f3as]:5414.jpg



Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "Its man marking. You stay 1 foot outside the opposite Winger. Then you aint gonna get caught out. If everyone marked their man there would be no 10 metre gap'"


Make your mind up, you previously said "I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing."

But what is Penny supposed to do if three defenders inside him haven't done their job? Just become the scapegoat like he has done.

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[quote="Bob Paisley":y3z7f3as]A lot of teams beat us, do a lap of honour and don't stop running. They live too long on one good result. I remember Jimmy Adamson crowing after Burnley had beaten us once and that his players were in a different league. At the end of the season they were.[/quote:y3z7f3as] [quote="WireFanatic II":y3z7f3as]Why, if it isn't Catalancs, RLFANS answer to a question no-one asked![/quote:y3z7f3as]:5414.jpg



Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "In fact this forum Makes me laugh.
Lay off Penny , Lay off Penny. Hes young, Hes Learning.
When are people gonna wake up and realize the Lowes knows better than you keyboard Rugby players and stop being so sentimental?'"


Crikey, you are even taling to yourself now.

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Quote: keithcun "Make your mind up, you previously said "I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing."

But what is Penny supposed to do if three defenders inside him haven't done their job? Just become the scapegoat like he has done.'"


I think you'll find I said keep a foot outside the winger. He aint a scapegoat Just not a good player. wake up

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I love watching the game, but have never played it and I confess to knowing very little when it comes to defensive tactics and such.

Are there effectively two different defensive styles - sliding (which would equate to zonal marking in football) and man to man (equates to man to man in football)?

If this is the case, and if we play a sliding defence then is there room to have a wing playing man to man outside of the sliding defence (a bit like you can play zonal in football, but still have one or two players playing man to man too)?

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I don't get this rational that it's either one thing or the other, it can be both and it is. The defence inside of penny is shocking and penny is a poor one on one tackler.

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