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Can anyone point to another assistant coach in the sport who has received so much criticism in comparison to the big boss?

Even at Wakefield a few weeks ago, people were calling for him to be lynched but started hyperventilating if they overheard a bad word being said about Smith.

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I think we many of us understand it as, Agar does have the greater training imputation on the field. TS ticks the boxes for Agar to take his heat along with running the club.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "Can anyone point to another assistant coach in the sport who has received so much criticism in comparison to the big boss?

Even at Wakefield a few weeks ago, people were calling for him to be lynched but started hyperventilating if they overheard a bad word being said about Smith.'"


He gets this level of criticism because lots of people think that Smith is far less hands on in the the day to day coaching of the team, and that vast amounts of things in training are done by Agar.

I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is then he rightly deserves the level of scrutiny and criticism he gets.

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Quote: Tiz Lad "He gets this level of criticism because lots of people think that Smith is far less hands on in the the day to day coaching of the team, and that vast amounts of things in training are done by Agar.

I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is then he rightly deserves the level of scrutiny and criticism he gets.'"

Is that really any different to other clubs? I can't imagine that Shaun Wane has much influence when it comes to backs training, for example.

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Quote: theflyingdonkey "....rumour here in Oz is that he is going to St George as assistant to Paul McGregor.....'"


The same rumour made it into one of the RL papers here yesterday.

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Quote: Wanderer "The same rumour made it into one of the RL papers here yesterday.'"

With no disrespect to him.. some of the best coaches over here can only manage an assistant role in the NRL. Agar must have a fierce Squash backhand!

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Hardly set the world alight so far.

Reading the report, it suggested that the role being offered in Aus wasn't as high profile as his current role at Wire but that he fancied trying his luck.

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Heard that both him and Smith are going at the end of the season.

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Quote: Wire Weaver "Heard that both him and Smith are going at the end of the season.'"


Just out of curiosity , by "heard" do you mean from an independent reputable source, or just that you've read it somewhere else on this here forum ?

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The rumour was TS and Agar tendered resignation following defeat at Wakefield that that then took top 8 aspirations out of our hands.
SJM asked them to stay until the season is over.

Rumour from OZ puts Agar keen to get other employment. TS has done ok out of Wire. Perhaps he wants time out?

Moley reports Wire search activities...vague from him not mentioning who or what.

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Quote: rubber duckie "The rumour was TS and Agar tendered resignation following defeat at Wakefield that that then took top 8 aspirations out of our hands.
SJM asked them to stay until the season is over.

Rumour from OZ puts Agar keen to get other employment. TS has done ok out of Wire. Perhaps he wants time out?

Moley reports Wire search activities...vague from him not mentioning who or what.'"


That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.

If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.

If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.'"


I have no answer to the not making sense. Little makes sense of the this season.
As regards SJM decision I cannot answer for him either.
My only thought is SJM considers the ship is in a better position following course until docked over a rudderless mutiny.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I have no answer to the not making sense. Little makes sense of the this season.
As regards SJM decision I cannot answer for him either.
My only thought is SJM considers the ship is in a better position following course until docked over a rudderless mutiny.'"


Can only assume who they want to replace Smithgar is currently unavailable to take over (hypothetically), and they remember the last time someone was brought in as a temporary measure, big Jimmy Lowes!

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.

If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.'"



this^^^^

if it was a case of briers n Clarke to the end f the season whilst we search for replacement I cannot say I think our results would have been any worse that under smith, very often in sport when a side replaces a manager there is often an upturn in performances for whatever reason a new voice and ideas are often whats needed to get the players firing again.

we can only speculate about what if we had changed the management early enough after 8/9 games we could still have made top8 and possibly top4 if had made changes at the right time hindsight is great but I feel a lot of people could have predicted a poor season after a short amount of time yet the well paid so called professionals did not and we have suffered for it

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