Oh my, I forgot I bet the draw on here! Lol.
I didn't fancy us to win but I won't bet my club to loose so I bet the draw.

He drifted out of the game last night but then really came alive during the comeback and showed great awareness with his kicking.

Head and shoulders above Myler.

I can't make my mind up on him. Plays well sometimes, then average, then poor, and can be all three in one game. It's something I'd expect from a 17 or 18 year old.

Firstly, I think we have to try and stop comparing our current playmakers with Briers. Lee was the last of the species - the all-round, impulsive, maverick genius British half-backs and the end of the lineage that gave us Murphy, Woods & Andy Gregory. They aren't coming back, we might as well yearn for a return to contested scrums.

I don't think there's a SL club in existence who wouldn't swop their current half-backs for at least one from the last 10 years but life, coaching, the game, the demands and requirements have moved on. The game is worse for it, but there we are.

With Gareth, I think he is still sufferring from several seasons of being the bridesmaid never the bride. I suspect he doesn't yet have the confidence to vocally boss the team, but in terms of his raw skills they are improving. I thought his kicking game last night was easily the equal of Brough, which is praise indeed. Alongside an experienced, mongrel of a passing half I think GOB will flourish.

As for Myler, I don't quite get it. He has all the facets needed to be a really good half-back, is at his prime physically, has the experience but his body language for me screams "APATHY". He looks like he's had botox of the soul and shows all the urgency of an ice age.

We've waited, you've had your chance, please close the door on your wait out and tell the next person to come in.

I know what you mean about 'maverick' half backs.
Unfortunately I think nowadays a lot of the spontenaety has been 'coached out' by game plans.
In situation 'a' you do 'b,c,d,e or f'.

With the mavericks there was a 'g and h' spotted as te ball was recieved, but in todays game the fact the 'g' and 'h' wouldn't work out 50% of the time means that they'd give the opposition the advantage.
With 'a' to 'e' if it goes wrong it probably still means we get to keep the ball.

And I can imagine the rollocking the likes of Wane (Wigan working to a fairly fixed formula but doing it exceptionally well) would give the half for doing 'g' and 'h'.

Whoever follows Briers - it's a bit like Moyes following Fergie. Odds always against matching the same performance initially.

I like having the option of Bridge, Ratch and GOB in the halves.
GOB has the best kicking game
Bridge is so strong and now has the confidence to 'boss' the forwards about that he didn't have in his early 20's
Ratch has great versatility but I do see his best position being in the halves supporting with GOB or Bridge (although there's a strong case for f/b being his best position)

Myler really appears to be having a mare of a season to be honest. He's got to improve otherwise he won't be around after his current contract finishes. (And I honestly think he realizes that, but perhaps things are going on that we don't know about that's affecting his form).

If you don't want him, I'd have GoB back at Saints

I don't think bridge can boss the forwards, or team, see the Widnes game, he ment missing in that, and couldn't generate any momentum, wasn't pushing the team around whatsoever.


Even when we were winning you didn't see much of him doing it.

Perhaps Myler has had his head turned by La Dolce Vita of the BBC luvvies friends of his wife who spend licence payers' money like water and live in an expenses fuelled dream world.

Which ones and how much do they spend and how would you know?

Perhaps he's had his confidence knocked by so called supporters like you constantly knocking him?
Perhaps he's had 2 serious injuries during a stop go season (conveniently forgotten by most).
I get really angry with those who proclaim to be 'true supporters' and then constantly knock certain players.

Sorry Teesside but Asotasi bashing has been completely justified.

Hmm. Fair points but flawed.

He wasn't injured at the start of the season, and he failed to deliver in every capacity
If injuries were the issue then Ben Harrison should be at Swinton - he's had considerably worse injuries than Myler this year going back to pre-season but, as you may have noticed, he was a trojan on Thursday and not for the first time
If confidence is the issue, caused by supporters "constantly knocking players" let's lay off Asotasi - he'll come good

Sorry, doesn't stack up. I agree, having a pop at players is unfortunate, but when people are paying hard earned money to see a player going through the motions they are entitled to voice their anger. It's democracy, it's consumer-power and it's fair.

He's been really poor I admit, and I really do think that he'll call it a day at the end of the season, but that rubbish about Myler was ridiculous. Some people need to give their heads a shake.

I think GOB would benefit from doing drama lessons (deadly serious), they teach you how to be confident and command a room.
I think his game could improve a lot if he became a bit sweary and shouty and use his GOB.

Unfortunately, some people have to have a scapegoat. Once they adopt this view they cannot or will not see anything positive in that players performance. Others will get away scot free for the same or greater indiscretions. Sheep mentality. See the semi final v Leeds as an example. Russell and Grix to name just two committed howlers that led to Leeds tries or set the pattern for the game but Myler gets bagged and very little is said about the others. We've seen this before with Clarke, Wainwright etc.

On Asotasi though, there must be something seriously wrong. He is averaging around 25 minutes a game at best. I wonder if he is carrying a chronic injury and I wouldn't be surprised to see a mutual parting the ways announced shortly.