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Quote: sally cinnamon "Ben Westwood the Cristiano Ronaldo of rugby league'"


I fear that's going to leave poster maufacturers out of pocket...

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Quote: Saddened! "What? He was really dumb at the weekend. Too many penalties and his aggression wasn't targeted as well as it usually is. I'm a big fan of his, but that wasn't his finest hour.

I think the effort was remarkable, given Ellis, Graham and Peacock had all been injured, but there wasn't much of usual dominance in the game.'"


Each to their own. But if the price of that kind of enthusiasm in defence is the occasional penalty, then I'll happily take it.

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I thought he worked tirelessly in defence.... topping the tackle count in 55 mins playing time... I also thought a few of the penalty's against him were debatable.

Some one eyed wigan fan think he should be dropped icon_lol.gif

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Those saying Westwood had a "stinker" or a "bad day at the office" need to watch the game more closely. Yes, he gave away a couple of pens, but his workrate was (as usual) outstanding, and his defence was, I believe, frustrating, even hurting, the Aussies, to the extent that I don't feel it was a big surprise that they went in on him with that extremely dubious 'hit' by Williams.

My annoyance was that I had a couple of quid on Benny to score first, and Slater nicked the ball off him when he was all but over the line icon_sad.gif

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Quote: worthing wire "Those saying Westwood had a "stinker" or a "bad day at the office" need to watch the game more closely. Yes, he gave away a couple of pens, but his workrate was (as usual) outstanding, and his defence was, I believe, frustrating, even hurting, the Aussies, to the extent that I don't feel it was a big surprise that they went in on him with that extremely dubious 'hit' by Williams.

My annoyance was that I had a couple of quid on Benny to score first, and Slater nicked the ball off him when he was all but over the line
Maybe it's because i've seen him have so many good games i'm overly critical, not his best for me and i'll stand by it.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Maybe it's because i've seen him have so many good games i'm overly critical, not his best for me and i'll stand by it.'"


Maybe, but he did not have a stinker by any stretch. I'd argue he was England's best forward on the day.

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Quote: Saddened! "What? He was really dumb at the weekend. Too many penalties and his aggression wasn't targeted as well as it usually is. I'm a big fan of his, but that wasn't his finest hour.

I think the effort was remarkable, given Ellis, Graham and Peacock had all been injured, but there wasn't much of usual dominance in the game.'"


Yeah he should be a little more dominant like Wilkin.

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Quote: worthing wire "Maybe, but he did not have a stinker by any stretch.[size I'd argue he was England's best forward on the day[/size.'"

Defo...his work rate is immense, i cant wait to watch him next season..

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Quote: MikeyWire "Yeah he should be a little more dominant like Wilkin.'"


I was comparing Ben to his own high standards, so not sure where you get the petty club-based dig from. I wouldn't have Wilkin in the squad myself, but I didn't pick the team.

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Quote: Saddened! "I was comparing Ben to his own high standards, so not sure where you get the petty club-based dig from. I wouldn't have Wilkin in the squad myself, but I didn't pick the team.'"


chillpill.gif Petty club biased dig icon_lol.gif ........ I call it banter...

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A bit of play acting.. who does he think he is? Sam Tomkins!

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Ben Westwood had nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming out and saying he was play acting after the Williams high shot, he's now created a situation where refs will think twice before giving him a penalty even if its warranted.

I doubt Tony Smith was best pleased with his revelation that he admitted to play acting, he needs to pause sometimes and have a quick think both on and off the pitch before he does or says anything, when he got penalised for wrestling Sam Thaiday to the floor the ref couldn't have been any louder in shouting held then for some reason Ben Westwood had to carry on to win a personal battle with an opposition player even though its going to result in an obvious pen against his team.

A great full blooded, no nonsense player but he has a tendancy for brain explosions that undoes his good work.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Ben Westwood had nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming out and saying he was play acting after the Williams high shot, he's now created a situation where refs will think twice before giving him a penalty even if its warranted.'"


I don't get this. The penalty should be given, before/regardless of the players reaction to receiving a high tackle. You get hit high, it's a pnalty whether you are on your feet on on the ground.

What Westwood is saying, is exactly the same standpoint as Terry O'Connor following his dust-up with Tallis; you can hit me as hard as you want, it has no effect.

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Their were better ways for Westwood to have got his point over to Tony Williams that his high shot didn't hurt, he should have lined him up for a big shot later in the game and knocked him flat on his back side legally, Westwood has done that kind of shot plenty of times. He could have whispered in his ear whilst he was on the floor that his cheap shot had no effect on him and he was play acting etc

Similar to how Kidwell dealt with Mason for disrespecting the haka, all legal with Mason being left on the floor and Kidwell having the last laugh.

That way his pride is kept in tact whilst he gets the last laugh, now refs won't be sure in the future how much a lazy tackle or lazy arm has hurt him and how thick he's laying it on, that can be the difference between a straight red or benefit of the doubt and being put on report because of who is involved, similar to the play actors in football like Suarez, Drogba and Ronaldo to name a few.

Towards the end of Ronaldo's United career his previous play acting caught up with him, he should have got penalties when he didn't get them. Thats because he had created a rod for his own back, nobody knew if he was acting or he wasn't even when he had genuinley been brought down in the penalty area.

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Prat, simple as.

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