Given the latest set back for Saints the +16 HKR may be worth it.

Catalan to beat the handicap is nailed on. -6 with Paddy power. The party is still going on in Leigh. Suspect they might rest a few for this one as they put a pretty strong squad out against Leeds the week before the final so I would expect the handicap to increase once the squads are announced.

Can STILL get 9/4 on catalans to win the GF. Just can't see who is going to stop them.

No handicap on the betting now unless you count Dudson and Mata’utia

Saints or Wigan like the previous 17 years.

-12 Salford v Wakefield +12
+8 Castleford v Saints +8
Scr HKR v Leigh Scr
-4 Hull v Wire +4
-8 Catalan v Wigan +8
-4 Giants v Leeds +4

A Hull double looks the bet there.

+2 now.

+4 HKR v Catalan-4
-4 Leigh v Giants +4
-12 Wigan v Salford +12
-2 Hull v Leeds +2
-12 Wire v Castleford +12
+12 Wakefield v Saints-12

Fancy 10p on
Cats -4
Huddersfield+4
Salford +12
Cas+12

Since reading the disciplinary I think we are much better than the +12.

Agree but it's us against a side fighting for there lives..and my faith with this lot is wearing very thin

-16 now since the disciplinary

Salford +12 could be a shout, Wigan down 5 senior props. Cooper and Havard our long term, Dupree failed HIA, Ellis banned (although appealing), Mago rumoured to be in a boot.

Fancy Catalans to bounce back against KR.

Dufty,Ashton and Williams to score 10/1