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Quote: Moe syslak "Currie needs to go.'"


He is getting a bit jack hughsey isn't he

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Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "He is getting a bit jack hughsey isn't he'"


I think most of us have a soft spot for Currie but his injuries robbed him of the chance to ever fulfill his potential. He'll never be the player we hoped he'd be. It wasn't his fault as he was dealt some cruel cards.

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Quote: Jack Napier "As in, we've paid off the rest of his contract?

Surely we'd only do that if we had a new recruit lined up.'"


If we’ve paid him off and terminated his contract, that payment would count on our salary cap. I believe if we loaned him out but contributed to his salary that would be outside the cap…. I think. So that could be an option.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I believe Charnley has been granted a quick release….
Financially covered.'"

Can I say, I DON’T believe that. Just a hunch like icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alffi_7 "If we’ve paid him off and terminated his contract, that payment would count on our salary cap. I believe if we loaned him out but contributed to his salary that would be outside the cap…. I think. So that could be an option.'"


6.1.2 Where the proposed transaction is the termination of a Playing Contract with one
of the Club’s existing Players, as part of which the Club proposes to make a new
payment (in a lump sum or in instalments) to the Player that was not provided for
in his Playing Contract or other arrangements (and therefore was not previously
included in the calculation of his Salary Cap Value) (the “Termination
Payment”), then the information provided to the HSCR must include a proposed
compromise agreement between the Player and the Club (usually in the form of
the RFL’s standard compromise agreement as drafted from time to time) setting
out full details of the agreement reached, including full details of the Termination
Payment.
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6.1.3 On approval of a Termination Payment referred to in clause 6.1.2 above, the
Player’s original Salary Cap Value shall thereafter be disregarded for the
purposes of calculating his previous Club’s Aggregate Liability.

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Swap you Charnley for any of our backline..?

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Quote: Shabino "Swap you Charnley for any of our backline..?'"

I thought Harry Newman was highly rated by Leeds fans?

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Currie isn’t what he was, but is still effective when getting a bit of room and can use the ball well. He’s one of them that if he was behind a dominant pack would look a far better player.

If we’re cutting Cooper, Ratchford, Widdop and Charnley at the end of the season I expect significant investment in the pack, it’s clear for all to see that is the root cause of our failure

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Quote: Jack Napier "6.1.2 Where the proposed transaction is the termination of a Playing Contract with one
of the Club’s existing Players, as part of which the Club proposes to make a new
payment (in a lump sum or in instalments) to the Player that was not provided for
in his Playing Contract or other arrangements (and therefore was not previously
included in the calculation of his Salary Cap Value) (the “Termination
Payment”), then the information provided to the HSCR must include a proposed
compromise agreement between the Player and the Club (usually in the form of
the RFL’s standard compromise agreement as drafted from time to time) setting
out full details of the agreement reached, including full details of the Termination
Payment.
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6.1.3 On approval of a Termination Payment referred to in clause 6.1.2 above, the
Player’s original Salary Cap Value shall thereafter be disregarded for the
purposes of calculating his previous Club’s Aggregate Liability.'"


Termination of a contract is very different to paying off a contract. Termination is when there has been a breach of contract (gross misconduct, drugs, arrest etc), and this clause protects clubs from being in a position where they need to keep a banned/ arrested player in their squad. Unless there’s a suggestion there’s a breach the clause you copied isn’t coming into the situation.

Otherwise what we’re discussing here is completing Charnley contract early, which generally includes a negotiated portion of the remaining value of the contract. With 6 months remaining on his contract there was 50k of value left (aka he was paid 100k a year - I don’t know that but for simplicities sake) and Warrington agreed to pay 20k for him to complete his contract now, that would save Warrington 30k on the cap net. Of course we don’t know what any such agreement might be, and there doesn’t seem to be any reason why Charnley wouldn’t expect the full sum.

Any loan would need to be agreed with the player as well, so if Charnley didn’t want to go, you couldn’t force him. But it is correct loaned players count in the club whom is loaning’s cap rather than his parent company (otherwise someone could buy a couple of middle ground championship clubs, sign a load of players and then loan them to a SL club and the SL club could effectively have unlimited cap).

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So, Hill gone ,Cooper & Ratchford to go ? 3 players who give100% effort in every game ,possibly exchanged for bums from Down Under giving 20% effort. Why not keep them till our academy bears fruit ?

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Quote: Boss Hog "I thought Harry Newman was highly rated by Leeds fans?'"

Very highly rated but can’t stay on the field sadly, so we’ll see. Newman might be the only one I’d think twice about swapping for!

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Quote: ninearches "So, Hill gone ,Cooper & Ratchford to go ? 3 players who give100% effort in every game ,possibly exchanged for bums from Down Under giving 20% effort. Why not keep them till our academy bears fruit ?'"



I’d give 100% but it wouldn’t be good enough would it? I don’t think any players Aussie or otherwise will get away with not giving 100% under Powell. The 3 names you mentioned are all on a downward curve due to their age, Ratchford has been for some time. Powell is changing the culture and giving the squad a breath of life….I’m beginning to like where it’s heading.

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If this early release of Charnley rumour becomes fact, and with Butler and Doro already gone, then we must be signing a player for this season.

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If Cooper is going it can only be down to a small number of factors

He wants too much
He wants too long
Powell doesn't like him
He doesn't like Powell

In a year that's been marred by "meh" performances, i think Coops has held his head up high. I've no stats to back any of this up but my eyes tells me he's a great grafter, can still mix it with the best of them and has passion. Not bad attributes for a position where we're struggling to recruit

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Quote: Philth "If Cooper is going it can only be down to a small number of factors

He wants too much
He wants too long
Powell doesn't like him
He doesn't like Powell

In a year that's been marred by "meh" performances, i think Coops has held his head up high. I've no stats to back any of this up but my eyes tells me he's a great grafter, can still mix it with the best of them and has passion. Not bad attributes for a position where we're struggling to recruit'"

Cooper would be great for us a!

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