Leeds played well for 20 minutes in the League game v. Saints but otherwise it has been all Saints. Last nights game was very one sided. Leeds are not looking that good. Croft & Ackers can't make up for the lack of forward power.

Leeds seem like they're getting worse

Personally I just don't get the hype about Rohan Smith as a coach. Pundits seem to rate him as a genius, but I'm pretty sure if he was at a smaller club than Leeds he wouldn't be getting all these raps.

The Leeds try was a piece of opportunism.
Other than that they didn't offer much. Quite boring.
Saints dominated in the forwards - strange - and seemed to march down the centre of the field at will. Oldeski, Holroyd and Lisone are better than that.
Croft was ok in the 2nd half. At least Frawley tried to be involved for the whole match.
Miller is nothing special from what I've seen either.
Whilst I give Saints credit for suffocating Leeds, if I was a Leeds fan I'd be very disappointed in that performance.

He has been under pressure before at Leeds & if things don't improve this season I can see him being on his way. They seem to have signed/sacked so many players since he's been i/c.

Leeds are the Man Utd of RL. Flushed with success and a golden era of players that will just never be reached again. Now they're stuck in an endless cycle of signings and coaches to try and find the magic formula but in the meantime they just plunge into mediocrity. Looked at their board, one guy asked what does Oledski actually bring, and I've been wondering the same for years, Sky give him plaudits but I never really see him change a game or make that much of a difference. Their new halfback looks like Blake Austin did most of the time at Leeds - anonymous, pedestrian. Croft is trying, but it's hard when you're the only one out of a pair. Miller gave it a good go in last week's first half but you get the impression it won't happen for him week in, week out.

Giants walloped Hull. Not sure how much longer Smith keeps his job there and Batley in front against Castleford

I think Smith has lost the Hull FC dressing room. They are lucky that the IMG grades will ensure they stay in Super League. Even London seem to show more spirit this year.

God help hull next week against there neighbours...shame for tony..our best coach with some wonderful rugby played in wireland...resign and leave with some dignity...nice man to talk too as well

No coach resigns. Mutual agreement is the term for sacked in RL.
They want their contract paid.

I don’t know the terms when Paul Cullen left the club.
But he is the only one I ever heard of someone condition free resigning.
I’m sure there must be, but it’s very rare.

I respect Paul Cullen highly.
And when Monaghan put the stinker of an interception pass out…
(Which on the afternoon and to this day believe he did on purpose), you could see the passion and pride drain from his face,
Seeing a player seemingly lose a game was the (what’s the point?) last action for Cull.

Quote: rubber duckie " And when Monaghan put the stinker of an interception pass out… (Which on the afternoon and to this day believe he did on purpose), you could see the passion and pride drain from his face, '" 1. We were 28 : 18 up at 70 minutes. Who gave away the other tries? 2. It was an evening game, not afternoon. Mon, 26th May 2008 Kickoff: 7:30 PM. 3. That game was a long, long time coming. PC should have gone a few seasons earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyVLNRbMpu0 Warrington side Hicks, Riley, Gleeson, King, Penny; Briers, Monaghan; Morley (C), Clarke, Rauhihi, Anderson, Westwood, Anderson. Int: Gleeson, Grix, Bracek, Harrison.

Quote: rubber duckie " And when Monaghan put the stinker of an interception pass out… (Which on the afternoon and to this day believe he did on purpose), you could see the passion and pride drain from his face, '" 1. We were 28 : 18 up at 70 minutes. Who gave away the other tries? 2. It was an evening game, not afternoon. Mon, 26th May 2008 Kickoff: 7:30 PM. 3. That game was a long, long time coming. PC should have gone a few seasons earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyVLNRbMpu0 Warrington side Hicks, Riley, Gleeson, King, Penny; Briers, Monaghan; Morley (C), Clarke, Rauhihi, Anderson, Westwood, Anderson. Int: Gleeson, Grix, Bracek, Harrison.

I do remember the try well. The idea that Monaghan threw out the pass on purpose is stretching it a bit far.

I'll be honest at the time I thought he'd done it on purpose too - watching that clip again I highly doubt it. Monaghan was superb - not sure he was that good though.

We were pushing to score as we were 2 points behind, 2 minutes left and likely our last attack of the game. Dorn just read the pass and intercepted.

Once he moved to hooker, he was superb.

He was only average as a scrum half, (Where Cullen signed him for and only selected him to played there).

He was playing hooker for Manly before we signed him, and Tony Smith moved him back to No.9. for Wire.