Every single match attending fan has seen opposition forwards galloping over our pack for the last couple of years and then when we have the ball barely making it over halfway and then the hit and hope Austin kick praying Toby King hasn't fallen asleep. Then what do we use with any spare cash we have is to bring in Latu and Kibula. I'm sure I saw these 2 on a missing persons poster in Golden Square! FFS surely heads have to roll for this ridiculous situation. We should change our chant to "It'll never be our year"! (PS For those who reply "What about the Challenge Cups" I'd say you can win that by playing 3/4 good games. The GF is the big one and everyone knows it....even Catalans won a CC and Salford nearly did!) C'mon Wire get some big nasty props in or you'll struggle to sell season tickets with what is being dished up!

Every season you tell us Wire will "win the lot"

Some good points in there. Additionally;

I don't think we are getting the best from Daryl Clark, simply because he gets sucked into too much of the hard defensive work with the opposition forwards - which our pack needs to be doing.

We have scored quite a few long distance tries this year. Forget the fact that they look really good when they come off, ask why it is happening. I think the simple reason is that we are not further up field because our pack struggles to get us there.

Whilst no younger props are being introduced to the squad (imported or from Academy), our two front line props will be 32/33 next year and Hill is certainly starting to fade.
We have been running down our resources and doing nothing to replace them ( perhaps with Doro there is some hope).

It's ironic that our near neighbour who has done pretty well with props has now managed to secure a very decent prospect for next year. They have plugged a gap very early whilst we seem to be oblivious to the fact that we have even got a problem.

The situation isn't unique to props. If a new coach does come in, he has the short term task of getting more out of the current squad and a longer term job of rebuilding the team via recruitment (which needs to improve dramatically) and integrating youngsters into the starting 17.

Hill, Cooper, Ratchford, Widdop, Austin, Patton, J Clark, Gelling, Akuola, Latu are, for one reason or another, going to need replacing in the next 3 years and that project needs to start NOW with the appointment of a proven coach and giving him control over player recruitment.

Let's be honest though ,concerning forwards, the only import we have than can play long minutes is Jason Clark. Sita , Latu & BMM are all lacking in that department & during his time here BMM hasn't really lived up to the hype. All in all ,signing such low minute players has left our home grown forwards doing increasingly more work. If you are signing overseas players you should at least expect them to share the workload & maybe even show our players how to do the job better. Perhaps one of our first jobs should be to sack the scouting staff.

We have scouting staff??? Goodness me, you live and learn.

D. Clarke hasn’t quite managed the lofty heights of last year, whether that’s to do shouldering more defensive work or being targeted by the opposition that’s a possibility. This season compared to last, he hasn’t been as influential whether that be due to Covid (not training for 4/5 months) or new baby related who knows but the same can be said about Philbin too, neither of them have really caught my eye compared to their 2019 form. When they both earned their GB spots...

One positive is that we definitely seem to have abit more strike and ability to score from long distance especially down that left side primarily down to King, but assisted by Currie/Mamo/Widdop. I suppose it will be interesting to see if we decide to keep King there or move Inglis to that side, because I’m fairly certain Inglis prefers the left centre position (If he comes of course). But I get your point we seem a lot more eager to try and go around a side rather than run over it...

Time and time again, when it comes to a slug fest down the middle, the going gets tough and we tend to struggle. The Cup semi-final against Salford was a good example of this, we couldn’t do the basics right made far to many costly errors and they out enthused us going forward. You could probably say the same about the Leeds game in Feb and few other examples this year and last that spring to mind.

Age is also a factor, Hill & Cooper realistically don’t have many playing years ahead of them. If there was any a time to blood in a new prop or give an academy lad a start it should be from next year. I’d like to see Hill on the bench with Doro/new signing given an opportunity but unfortunately we are likely to stick with the tried and tested thanks to Price.

St Helens and Wigan have both brought in two decent props A. Paasi & Brad Singleton - they seem to be a lot more efficient in that department, we are just as inconsistent off the field as we are as much on it.

Korbin Sims signs for HKR, surely we’ve missed a trick there..

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I’d go after Thompson.

She was great in the Tall Guy.

There are loads of props signed by other superleague clubs for next year. Meanwhile our main 2 are another year closer to retirement and still awaiting some backup. We can't get through the season with 3 props the rest of what we have just isn't good enough. Hill, Cooper and Philbin bust a gut for the team but it's asking too much of them, we need 2 more and doro to bulk up as cover, although I'm far from convinced over doro.

Initial thought is yes.

I wonder if Ashton had plenty of positive things to say about Tony Smith?

Luis Johnson made available to other clubs for 2021.