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| Quote: Wires71 "Glad he is on his way but let's do it with a bit of class and wish him well. He should never have been signed - that was the mistake.
But totally agree with the points made previously that we need to shed this "he tried hard" sentiment. That's code for accepting crap.'"
That is one view. My own is that if you are going to criticise someone for their faults you should also acknowledge their strengths. Giving 100% on the field should be a given, but we can all name many players who haven't. In my view giving your all,even if it falls short of our standards, is more praiseworthy than a player who has a huge amount of skill but can't be bothered. Then there is the group who don't have any obvious skill AND can't be bothered.
I'm not saying we should sign players just because they give 100% (just to be clear).
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| Quote: Captain Hook "That is one view. My own is that if you are going to criticise someone for their faults you should also acknowledge their strengths. Giving 100% on the field should be a given, but we can all name many players who haven't. In my view giving your all,even if it falls short of our standards, is more praiseworthy than a player who has a huge amount of skill but can't be bothered. Then there is the group who don't have any obvious skill AND can't be bothered.
I'm not saying we should sign players just because they give 100% (just to be clear).'"
Understand. For balance
Strengths : Very good runner from dummy half, good yardage from kick returns, strong aggressive runner, gives 100%
Weaknesses : Suspect under high ball, suspect handling, defensively fragile and liable to absolute jaw dropping howlers (Huddersfield game for example), lack of key attributes for a winger such as pace, ability to catch and evasiveness.
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| Quote: Captain Hook "That is one view. My own is that if you are going to criticise someone for their faults you should also acknowledge their strengths. '"
On an humorous aside does this view of balanced critique extend beyond sport?
e.g) Michael McIntyre
strengths : tidy hair, grandmas love him
weaknesses : absolute top hat devoid of humour.
Josef Mengele :
strengths : pioneering medical research
weaknesses : abhorrent psychopath, human rights abuser, not a real doctor.
Pol Pot
strengths : decisive, strong leadership, vision
weaknesses : a bit headstrong, liable to genocide, a bit of a lefty.
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| might be an idea to approach Widnes about a swap -Russel for Joe Mellor?
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| Quote: Wires71 "On an humorous aside does this view of balanced critique extend beyond sport?
e.g) Michael McIntyre
strengths : tidy hair, grandmas love him
weaknesses : absolute top hat devoid of humour.
Josef Mengele :
strengths : pioneering medical research
weaknesses : abhorrent psychopath, human rights abuser, not a real doctor.
Pol Pot
strengths : decisive, strong leadership, vision
weaknesses : a bit headstrong, liable to genocide, a bit of a lefty.
I once lasted about 5 minutes of McIntyre's "routine".
It's hard to judge which of the three people you mention, is most evil.
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| Quote: Wires71 "On an humorous aside does this view of balanced critique extend beyond sport?
e.g) Michael McIntyre
strengths : tidy hair, grandmas love him
weaknesses : absolute top hat devoid of humour.
Josef Mengele :
strengths : pioneering medical research
weaknesses : abhorrent psychopath, human rights abuser, not a real doctor.
Pol Pot
strengths : decisive, strong leadership, vision
weaknesses : a bit headstrong, liable to genocide, a bit of a lefty.
That would be quite a front row...and you could safely say every other team's supporters would hate them!
Can't agree with you on McIntyre though. His ONLY positive is that he isn't Ricky Gervais.
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| Quote: spacks grandad "might be an idea to approach Widnes about a swap -Russel for Joe Mellor?'"
No, no and no.
I'd rather Danny Walker, Olly Ashall or Matt Whitley.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "No, no and no.
I'd rather Danny Walker, Olly Ashall or Matt Whitley.'"
matt whitley? no thanks.
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| Quote: sir adrian morley "..are you serious or is this a wind up.if your serious i think you should give up the drink or drugs or both...hills a great forward end of russell is not a good winger end of but i wish him well in his future and thank the lad for his time at the wire...'" Nope not a wind up + I’ve never taken drugs + rarely drink.I just don’t see this guy as 1 of the best forwards in a Wire shirt.Hardly ever passes + for a guy his size he should be steamrolling at the opposition when he’s got the ball.Overrated but just my opinion.
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| Huddersfield aren't interested, Salford can't afford him and Widnes and Leigh are the 2 clubs who are asking questions.
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| Quote: Alan Cargill "Huddersfield aren't interested, Salford can't afford him and Widnes and Leigh are the 2 clubs who are asking questions.'"
Be amazed if he went to Leigh,and who would want to got to Widnes lol.
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| Leigh is his probable destination they have the money and ambition to succeed, they are waiting for a call from the RFL to reinstate them to SL once Salford's money issues catch up with them.
If Salford sort out their issues we could swap him for Niall Evalds?
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| Quote: Snaggletooth "Leigh is his probable destination '"
No other SL team ready to snap him up? Funny that, he's had 95 games for us and GF experience and LLS winners medal.
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| Quote: Snaggletooth "Leigh is his probable destination they have the money and ambition to succeed, they are waiting for a call from the RFL to reinstate them to SL once Salford's money issues catch up with them.
If Salford sort out their issues we could swap him for Niall Evalds?'"
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| Quote: ColD "Welcome to 3 months ago
Listening to Derek Beaumont on RL Backchat last week, it does look that way.
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