The really odd thing about Wheeler is the fact he always seems to get unrelated, different problems. It isn't even a chronic recurring issue.

I agree about Wheeler and sentiment. However, I don't think that a major clear out, whilst exciting and perhaps justifiable given our performance levels over the last two seasons is necessarily a good thing.

Great teams IMO win and win continually over long periods because of succession planning and strategy. Build a great team with a range of age and experience and bring in 3 or 4 new bodies into the squad every season whether that's club trained or bought to freshen things up, or continue with or add quality.

We are where we are and perhaps it's needed, but, we hung on too long with our 'great team' gambled they would win it. we didn't and we're still suffering because of it.

I'm not disagreeing with you UR but I will point out Cas and KR both on successive years have made a CC final from points of having near zero playing personnel after decades of no finals whatsoever...!
I think it's excepted both clubs had successful seasons....

However, had Warrington made the CC final, would we be considering it a successful season?
Personally I think it would be little more than spraying Fabreeze on a turd. I think deep down the best thing that happened to Wire all season was that thrashing at Headingly.

Cas and KR fans can let us know what success means to them, as it's subjective when you get beyond winning the ultimate prize which is a matter of fact.

If we got to Wembley and suffered like KR did on the day, then we wouldn't have thought it was a successful season. If we had won it this year then bizarrely the reaction might have been different to 2009, we won the cup we are on the way up, not we won the cup it's not the GF and it's only papering over the cracks.

Sorry for my part in the thread drift and bringing Association Football into it, but, Liverpool in the 70's and United in the 90's early 00's had succession planning off to a tee and that gave them the continued success that Snaggletooth mentioned and we all crave.

We didn't manage that feat through one reason or another after having set it up and having our expectations raised post the victory v Hudd's So yes your Fabreeze metaphor works

Boots'N'All just announced an undisclosed fee by an unknown club as been paid to Salford for him, then went on to say is it the rumour about him going to Saints or could it be us because of letting Myler go.

Don't think a decision has been made on Wheeler yet - I'd assume he's going though.

It is Saints he is signing for.

Never liked him and that just confirms it.

Confirmed to Saints by Koukash on Twitter. An interesting signing, not one to shout about however.

Konrad Hurrell being shopped around SL by NZW apparently. He'd be a star in SL. Warrington in for him perhaps?

Big fan of conny. ....he'd be awesome. ....

i hope he doesn't go to the pies. ..Sam Tomkins asked him to come over and join him in the UK on the twitter.

I didnt know he was genuinely looking to come here though.

Did he not sign a new three year contract earlier this year?

Both A and B plus wondering whether he'll he get through the warm up unscathed.

He did, but seems he's out of favour. He was dropped to the NSW Cup team this season and spent plenty of time on the bench as well. NZW have recently signed Blake Ayshford so looks like he could be available. There are plenty of rumours about that Hurrell's management have repeatedly asked for a release, which was what prompted them to sign Ayshford.

decent signing this for saints i think.... the lad has lots of potential. I would have liked to have seen him at warrington.

seeing as it has been mentioned in this thread.... wheeler is useless.. an absolute pudding that cant get fit... total waste of cap space.

have we released him? i haven't been keeping up to date with stuff lately... please god let us have released him.

Do you think we could release him via a medieval catapult over the North stand, we could have a comp to see who fires the shot