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Quote: ratticusfinch "Exactly that. Let Wrench and the other youngsters learn some harsh and valuable lessons this season. We’re winning nothing this season but if we want to close the gap over time then patience with the young players will go a long way towards doing so. Burgess will have the patience, so should we.'"


I don't think the cup is out of reach with a generous run-in. I can see this being a 2018 type year. Start slow, become defensively sound without offering anything in attack, then finish half-decent. We're nowhere near Top 4 but if we slowly improve we can be mid-table with a good cup run. Hopefully we'll sort our attack before next year.

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Wrench has got something that many haven't got & you can't learn ... pace. So worth working on.
I bet he will be going through all sorts of decision making practices to work on his defence.

Reality is however that if he did start losing us games he'd get picked out as a defensive weakness by other teams & he wouldn't be kept in the team for long. The odd mistake would be tolerated but only so much. I think all clubs would be the same. Wigan will have left out lots of youngsters over the years. Wrench is not Harry Smith different players different skills.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Wrench has got something that many haven't got & you can't learn ... pace. So worth working on.
I bet he will be going through all sorts of decision making practices to work on his defence.

Reality is however that if he did start losing us games he'd get picked out as a defensive weakness by other teams & he wouldn't be kept in the team for long. The odd mistake would be tolerated but only so much. I think all clubs would be the same. Wigan will have left out lots of youngsters over the years. Wrench is not Harry Smith different players different skills.'"


As mentioned earlier, we could swap sides for King and Wrench. That would give teams less reason to specifically target one side. It's not just Wrench's pace, it's his footwork and passing. Not many centres who can create tries these days, and certainly no other ones at this club.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Wrench has got something that many haven't got & you can't learn ... pace. So worth working on.
I bet he will be going through all sorts of decision making practices to work on his defence.

Reality is however that if he did start losing us games he'd get picked out as a defensive weakness by other teams & he wouldn't be kept in the team for long. The odd mistake would be tolerated but only so much. I think all clubs would be the same. Wigan will have left out lots of youngsters over the years. Wrench is not Harry Smith different players different skills.'"

Absolutely
There is no substitute for size and pace.
Pack size and backs pace.

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Quote: easyWire "As mentioned earlier, we could swap sides for King and Wrench. That would give teams less reason to specifically target one side. It's not just Wrench's pace, it's his footwork and passing. Not many centres who can create tries these days, and certainly no other ones at this club.'"


That doesn't fix anything though it just moves the problem from one side to another and creates more problems as now king and wrench have to form a defensive partnership with their new defenders, AND a new attacking partnership as well

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "That doesn't fix anything though it just moves the problem from one side to another and creates more problems as now king and wrench have to form a defensive partnership with their new defenders, AND a new attacking partnership as well'"



Ashton may see more (some) ball outside Wrench.

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Quote: Wires71 "Ashton may see more (some) ball outside Wrench.'"


I suspect Ashton is going to have to generate quite a few of his own tries this year but I also think Fitzgibbon will prove quite helpful for him in that respect.

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Don’t see how that’s a yellow card.

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Hull KR pooping the bed here! Good old Barry McDermott just used a new word on me, "tempetuous", guess a mix between impetuous and tempestuous! Ahh got to love the RL brain's trust.

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Dean Cross could have cost Salford this. Stupid to hold back Burgess. Gives the impetus to KR

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Had to laugh. Barrie McDermott saying 'you need intelligent agression'.

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Lmao I know they playing London but Bullock and Russell should be in our 21.

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Quote: karetaker "Lmao I know they playing London but Bullock and Russell should be in our 21.'"

Both shown up very well so far.

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Quote: Wanderer "Both shown up very well so far.'"


Clearly not in Burgess’s plans though.

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And Russell just got binned.

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