Goodness me. My name is Morrissey, I'm addicted to Wires and Lidl yoghurt and twas me that dared call Saints a one-trick pony.

Fact is, Saints worst performances or defeats (Leeds away.and Catalan at home) have coincided with Barba being out or nullified as much as poss.

Without him, Saints rely on Lomax, Farges and Matty Smith for inspiration which hardly inspires the same levels of confidence.

Barba is not only an exceptional player but his presence lifts the confidence and belief of the team, something the players themselves freely admit to. Saints know that without him a huge chunk of their potency is gone so they play to his strengths, and who wouldn't? It isn't clever coaching or gameplans because no-one at Saints could fulfill that role.

I’m afraid Saddened poisoned the well a long time ago, he clearly fears any suggestion of a resurgent Wire and all his posts should be viewed through that prism.

Saints have 3 players in the top 10 try scoring charts.
Saints have 2 forwards in the top 10 yardage. (The only other forward is Hill)
Barba is behind Myler for Try assists.
Saints concede less than 12 pts per game.

I don't think it's accurate to call them "one trick", just as it wasn't right to call Wire that when we had Sandow.






Luke Thompson is the highest yardage forward in SL.

Sorry W71
I think they are but I'm not using stats to argue against my eyes. They've played nobody since early season but a busted Cas in the cup. Stats aren't a fair reflection until the season is balanced and all the results are there for comparison.
I've said it several times...Saints run in to rnd 23 is tough. Let's reflect stats after rnd 23. Even then it's not completely balanced because Saints have a Magic gimme.

What on Earth are you on about, we’ve played every team in SL? You say ‘let’s reflect stats after rnd 23’ because you hope that Saints lose to Wire and Wigan (we’ll definitely beat Warrington) and it knocks us down. We’ve both played 15 games, stats are a fair reflection, you just don’t want them to be because they don’t suit.

Fact is, Barba scored 2 against Leeds so he was hardly nullified. You don’t mention the Hull FC game, we won easily and Barba was out.

If you're that thick explaining will make little difference.

Fans of a club playing an improving style of rugby and on a winning run after a dreadful previous season are happy, how very strange. Smug! Don't be foolish that's the nature of sport. Nobody (except the duck) is saying what you are accusing us of, and quite frankly that doesn't count.

Please do explain, because you’re talking rubbish as usual. If you can’t see the value in stats when both teams have played 15 games in all comps then it’s you who’s thick.

Is you beating us more/less/same definite as you beating Wakefield earlier on this season?

As definite as us beating you at the start of the season was.

The shorter the span, the less accurate the stat...plus identical comparison are required to measure change.
2 very define reasons.
That's it.
Like it or lump it.

If it's a Saints "gimme". Why do you have a Widnes win?