He (Bugner) never got truly accepted after he fought and controversially beat 'our 'Enery' Richard Dunne Sports Arena or whatever is called is opposite Odsall for free parking

Is Bugner still the Australian champion or is that honour held by a kangaroo these days ?


The 60s boxers mentioned earlier were unfortunate to come up against Clay/Ali who started a golden age for American boxers.

Let's not forget the great Don Cockle who fought for the title in the 1950s... that one isn't for the faint hearted, poor Don!

4 of the best British pub brawlers we've had, Cooper was a good boxer but apart from a lucky punch against Cassius Clay was never gonna hit the heights away from these shores anyway, Bugner very technical and very difficult to hit and even more difficult to put down, unfortunately no heart.

Fury's record outside of his 2 wins (which were 4 years apart) is terrible... terrible! Who you beat in boxing is what matters first and foremost, everything else comes after.
The way he has come back has been superb, but that doesn't make his record any better. His 3rd best win is against a cruiserweight for God sake (which he had to cheat to win)
Sure, the quality of fighters in the division has been low in the last 20 years, but there's always other contenders.
As for the ring belt, if they want to give it to him that's up to them, but he has 1 win against one of their top 10 heavyweights, and hasn't beaten the guy with the other belts, so I don't put that achievement has high as you obviously do.

No it isn't. Joshua has more wins against top 10 contenders than Fury and Wilder combined.

False equivalence.

The 90s was a great era. The 80s was arguably the worst. Holmes and Tyson were good, although Tyson is overrated and overly mythologised, I doubt he makes the top 20 all time list.

The 80s was the era of the light/middle - middleweight- ll - welterweight for me.
I loved Hagler and Robinson..,
We had hopefulls like Conteah and Dave Boy.

Wrong sugar Ray, but you're right. Although, I never liked Leonard much for how he disrespected Hagler.

Doh. Yes Leonard.
I didn’t like him ether...but I respected how clever he was...he played boxing as scoring points whereas Hagler fought old school.

Back in the day as a lorry driver I used to stay over regular in Bethnal Green, one of the pubs I used to frequent was the green Light and one night in there the regular DJ and comedian Mike Kemp a local celeb who was also had small talking parts in such as the sweeney and the like looked at me and said alright john mite, couldn't believe how he knew my name and was embarrassed when the crowd started cheering and applauding me, it was even more embarrassing when I realised I was stood next to John H Stracey

Add in Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran and we had Minter, Sibson and later Benn, Eubank. Great days in the welter-middleweight categories. Loads of fights and loads of rivalry.

That period had to be the most prolific. It took middleweight purse to heavyweight proportions.

You also had greats like James Tony, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Mike McCullam and Julian Jackson emerging towards the end of the decade in the middleweight division. Outstanding