Stop saying this FFS. The gap in points nullifies this line of thinking. We’ve been garbage for weeks and you know it as much as we do, or evidently you don’t. Of course you’re massive favourites. It’s not like you’re only ahead on points difference. Your lot like crowing how bad we are and how we’re equidistant from the bottom and the top... until it suddenly doesn’t suit your agenda.

My point is it depends on your definition of massive.

We are firm favourites, but I don't think you can equate this final to the Wigan Sheffield final.

I would say it is more like when leeds played Cas in 2014.

£10 on Saints gets you £13.30 back
£10 on Warrington gets you £40 back

Massive favourites.

Am I wrong? Does 1st v 2nd accurately tell the story? Deep down you know you're big favourites. On the form guide for the last 5 games we are bottom of the list!

So we don't show Dean at half back in the remaining session

The Saints fans are right, look at both semi finals last year. Saints were massive favourites then but Catalans and Warrington won, its a one off game that is 60/40 in Saints favour at the most. If anything, what you accuse Saints fans of doing Wire fans are doing far more. Making Saints out to be huge favourites so that if you lose you’ll pretend to not be bothered because you expected to lose (even though you’ll be gutted really) but if you win you’ll all be calling it the greatest shock of all time and how Saints are bottlers.

Have you been watching us recently? We wouldn't beat widnes tomorrow playing the way we have been, never mind saints. I won't be bothered, I genuinely don't think we have a hope in hell. They've beaten us easily 3 times this season and we are playing with worse than we were for the first 2. It would take a massive step forward from us to have a genuine chance. It's not beyond us, but it's not likely. Revisit this tomorrow and see what you think. We have nothing to lose, it's saints trophy unless they blow it.

No they didn't. In the last game there was nothing in it until Coops got 10 min

maybe the club dont want them to see the big secret about currie playing 6 and us trying to gain an advantage in the forwards with an extra man.

because that has been on this forum all week.

so it deffo cant be for that.... obviously.

I've heard detailed plans have been drawn up to pass to a winger.

That is a lie.

Makes a difference from constantly kicking to a centre.

That along with the cunning plan on letting the forwards get us off our line in the first 10/15min.

Reality is they didn't want the team to be seemingly dancing around a rugby ball chanting and waving like loonies

I don't think we're massive underdogs like Sheffield Wigan but it will be a huge suprise if we are lifting the trophy tomorrow.

A lot would have to go our way. We've players that have been in tjis situation before saints not so much recently, that's our main advantage the longer we stay in it the more it will play on their minds. We must make any error pay with points a repeat set or at least good territory and pinning them in their 20 for a few tackles.

If our team plays well tomorrow and we can maintain the intensity needed for the 80 I can see how we could win but that's a lot of ifs and buts. I hope we can come out on tops I'm jot sure if the winning the trophy or the meltdown on redvee lol

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