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Looking at it in some cold hard terms, the only people I would 100% keep in terms of quality, are Russell, Atkins, Sandow, Hill, Westwood and Westerman.

Evans is an absolute rock and I don't think we'd replace him with anyone nearly as defensively sound. But he offers nothing in attack.
Ratchford has been here 4-5 years now and we still don't have his spot nailed down, I don't see him flourish in any one spot, so while he offers utility, I don't care if he goes.
Penny is a brilliant attack threat and he will finish everything he's given, but he is prone to brainfarts and mistakes which leave me slightly iffy.
Gidley seemed to be great early on but last night proved to me he's not quite got it now. There were a couple times all he had to do was fire out a miss man pass and Lineham was in, he failed to see it.
Sims is a fantastic motivator from what I've seen, and he offers offloads, but he couldn't punch holes in a piece of paper, he runs in and crumples at the slightest touch.
Hughes is like Evans, solid as a rock defensively but offers up ziltch in attack, you can't have a second row that doesn't offer lines.
Lineham's attitude seems to be back but if he lost it so readily here, it could happen again and I don't want a guy who isn't willing 100% of the time.

The rest are all just too young for me to really make a solid evaluation of their impact on future squads. George and Toby are prospects, as is Patton. Wilde needs a lot more steel in him if he's going to make it.

Not sure if I missed anyone of note.

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Quote: DAG "Hardly been ravaged by injury down the years though, has he? Been a regular and quite injury free until this serious knee injury if I remember rightly? The likes of Harrison, Dodds and Wheeler are on another level.'"


Is Wheeler still here and is so why? I might be one of a few but think that there needs to be a little sentiment in sport the likes of Harrison should be given an opportunity to recover and if his Wire career is over it should be effected with a bit of class and full recognition of the hard yards he's made for us. Looking after people engenders team spirit, you might also be less motivated to run through the proverbial brick wall if you got hurt and carted off to the scrapyard at the first sign of in need of running repairs

Wheeler on the other hand......sorry not our problem and yes it was a gamble and he's being paid in chip butties or whatever

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Finished top of the league, won the shield, came 2nd in both cup finals (and with a bit of luck could have won one or both) boy, some of you lot are pretty hard to please

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Quote: ging "Dodds injuries to his knees were well documented, however he di finish the NRL season and he GF with Brisbane at the end of 2015. His injury here was a freak break and could have happened to anyone including a player who plays week in week out. He will be fully recovered by now and ready to go for 2017.

That's if he is staying but don't see what choice he has. No nrl team will buy him until he is tested again'"

The injury to Dodds legs had nothing to do with previous injuries to his knees or anywhere else. It was an horrific accident that I don't care to see again.

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Quote: Laughing Gravy "Finished top of the league, won the shield, came 2nd in both cup finals (and with a bit of luck could have won one or both) boy, some of you lot are pretty hard to please'"


The shield is not coveted. It's a nice to have, an icing on the cake. The big prize we all want is to be crowned Super League champions and I cannot see we will have a better chance than this year.

Our expectation is in proportion to the resources, wealth and stature of the club post 2009, not post 1979.

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Quote: Laughing Gravy "Finished top of the league, won the shield, came 2nd in both cup finals (and with a bit of luck could have won one or both) boy, some of you lot are pretty hard to please'"


Wigan will be better next year, we will need to be too.

I don't think Wilde or Westwood are the answer to be playing second row for the first 5 months of the season. I think we need to bring someone in...

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Quote: Laughing Gravy "Finished top of the league, won the shield, came 2nd in both cup finals (and with a bit of luck could have won one or both) boy, some of you lot are pretty hard to please'"


Still doesn't stop the unbiased (Apparently) Sky team calling us bottlers and fans of every team in the league taking the Pi$$ out of us on social media..

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Quote: Laughing Gravy "Finished top of the league, won the shield, came 2nd in both cup finals (and with a bit of luck could have won one or both) boy, some of you lot are pretty hard to please'"


I'm with you and we could have as easily have won the treble

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You mean SHOULD have easily won the treble....but didn't

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Another way of looking at it though is that if Hull could've refocused after their Wembley win then they could've had the LLS and Warrington could've ended up with no trophies.

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Quote: MikeyWire "Still doesn't stop the unbiased (Apparently) Sky team calling us bottlers and fans of every team in the league taking the Pi$$ out of us on social media..'"



Yeah, right! And how many of them finished above you in the league, got to the Grand Final, and reached Wembley?! I reckon fans of nine of those SL teams would have swapped places with you!

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More people watched Warrington play live than any other club. At a rough guess I would say about 500,000

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Warrington was the only team to play in every round of games and was Leeds last year....but the difference between the two is stark!

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Quote: Wolf-Boy "I'm with you and we could have as easily have won the treble'"



Aye but we didn't did we. Ifs, buts and maybes.

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "More people watched Warrington play live than any other club. At a rough guess I would say about 500,000'"


Really interesting, where did you get the info?

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