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Quote: Uncle Rico "Beyond the call of duty Bunkaib'"


Feel worse for you UR with you saying Chez Rico is closest to Salford to our other neighbours, you must have had a bit of stick.

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Quote: Bunkaib "Feel worse for you UR with you saying Chez Rico is closest to Salford to our other neighbours, you must have had a bit of stick.'"


Ha ha I'm getting it from all angles

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Quote: Zig "If you think that Hastings is the solution then I feel you will sadly be disappointed.'"


If I were playing Jeopardy and the answer came up Jackson Hastings then I feel the question would be.

Who would be one of the best players to bring in to fight with his own young teammates and destroy the dressing room?

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Quote: Bobby Digital "Shakes head in disbelief at the thought of signing Rhyse Martin.. I thought the club were moving away from signings like this.. it’s shows a lack of ambition and a level of mediocrity which the club seems to accept..'"

The club refused to offer Daryl Clark an extra year last season allowing him to sign for Saints, with whom he scored a hattrick for at the weekend and the club decided to replace him with Brad Dwyer who lasted 2 months at the club. The club has been lacking ambition for the last 10 years.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "The club refused to offer Daryl Clark an extra year last season allowing him to sign for Saints, with whom he scored a hattrick for at the weekend and the club decided to replace him with Brad Dwyer who lasted 2 months at the club. The club has been lacking ambition for the last 10 years.'"


I'm not an apologist for the Club and I usually get your posts whilst not always in agreement but this is codswallop.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Ha ha I'm getting it from all angles'"

Feels good doesn’t it.
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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "The club refused to offer Daryl Clark an extra year last season allowing him to sign for Saints, with whom he scored a hattrick for at the weekend and the club decided to replace him with Brad Dwyer who lasted 2 months at the club. The club has been lacking ambition for the last 10 years.'"

Not correct.
Wire offered more money than Saints and a deal that has him playing and mentoring the young no.9s as a coaching role.
He saw himself as a no9 not a no14 and flat turned it down and approached Rushy and offered himself.
Rushy said Clark wasn’t even on their radar even though they were desperate for a 9, he never thought he’d leave Warrington.
Rushy told him they can’t match Warrington’s current deal.
That came straight from Rushys mouth at the Coldplay concert.

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And for context his hat-trick was against London

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....and up to that point he's hardly been setting the world on fire

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I’m a huge fan of Clark, and we missed some of his direct play at Wembley, but I’m not convinced that we’re a worse team by letting him go. I think LTS’s point is that we let a great player go, and our intentions were to replace him with Brad Dwyer. I think we can all agree that the planning of that is mind blowing.

I’ve said before about Sam Powell and how I was unimpressed at first but can see the impact that he is having, I would question the logic of not starting him though. He’s a tight defender and really effective at slowing momentum, but doesn’t really offer much in attack. In the games that matter at the back end of the year (if we can avoid a slump…) I would be tempted to start him, try and get some control of the ruck speed and let Walker loose after 20/25 mins and try and change the pace.

But back to the point at hand, Powell was apparently available, and we all knew it when Leeming signed. But we went with Dwyer. LTS’s point about illogical recruitment is valid.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "I’m a huge fan of Clark, and we missed some of his direct play at Wembley, but I’m not convinced that we’re a worse team by letting him go. I think LTS’s point is that we let a great player go, and our intentions were to replace him with Brad Dwyer. I think we can all agree that the planning of that is mind blowing.

I’ve said before about Sam Powell and how I was unimpressed at first but can see the impact that he is having, I would question the logic of not starting him though. He’s a tight defender and really effective at slowing momentum, but doesn’t really offer much in attack. In the games that matter at the back end of the year (if we can avoid a slump…) I would be tempted to start him, try and get some control of the ruck speed and let Walker loose after 20/25 mins and try and change the pace.

But back to the point at hand, Powell was apparently available, and we all knew it when Leeming signed. But we went with Dwyer. LTS’s point about illogical recruitment is valid.'"


Fair enough but this isn't what LTS posted, it may have been inferred.

For a start he states that the club replaced Clark with Dwyer which in turn shows the Club's apparent lack of ambition that we've had for the last ten years. This isn't the same thing as "illogical recruitment" and so isn't a valid accusation IMO surely the Club decided that Walker deserved his chance as a starting 9 and the rest follows on.

BTW we have had plenty of examples of illogical recruitment, (it's part of who we are unfortunately), but I don't think that this is it and for the record I'd have preferred Clark to stay on but as an interchange.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "I’m a huge fan of Clark, and we missed some of his direct play at Wembley, but I’m not convinced that we’re a worse team by letting him go. I think LTS’s point is that we let a great player go, and our intentions were to replace him with Brad Dwyer. I think we can all agree that the planning of that is mind blowing.

I’ve said before about Sam Powell and how I was unimpressed at first but can see the impact that he is having, I would question the logic of not starting him though. He’s a tight defender and really effective at slowing momentum, but doesn’t really offer much in attack. In the games that matter at the back end of the year (if we can avoid a slump…) I would be tempted to start him, try and get some control of the ruck speed and let Walker loose after 20/25 mins and try and change the pace.

But back to the point at hand, Powell was apparently available, and we all knew it when Leeming signed. But we went with Dwyer. LTS’s point about illogical recruitment is valid.'"

I’m guessing you haven’t seen many Leigh games in the last few weeks.

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Don’t get me wrong UR, I would love Clark to be the bench man and play 10 minutes at the end of each half, but he’s not that player. He’ll want to start, want to get in the England frame and he’s not doing that as a back up.

And RD, I’ve seen quite a bit of Leigh actually this season, and Dwyer has been fine. But still very ineffective in defence. No doubt a live wire in attack when the packs on the front foot, but let’s face it he’s no better than any other 9 in the competition. By that I mean that if they swapped him with Matt Parcell, Chris Atkin, Sam Powell even, those clubs would feel short changed. And they aren’t in the top bracket of hookers. He doesn’t appear to be a leader of men, no real kicking game, even his distribution is hit and miss and that’s the principle job.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "Don’t get me wrong UR, I would love Clark to be the bench man and play 10 minutes at the end of each half, but he’s not that player. He’ll want to start, want to get in the England frame and he’s not doing that as a back up. snip '"


This BW sums up the point I was trying to make and where LTS's post falls down (IMO).

We (the Club) surely didn't come to the conclusion that we would all be better off 'just' swapping Clark for Dwyer.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "This BW sums up the point I was trying to make and where LTS's post falls down (IMO).

We (the Club) surely didn't come to the conclusion that we would all be better off 'just' swapping Clark for Dwyer.'"

I'm not sure what it is I've said wrong.

Clark leaving was a financial decision. The club offered Clark a 2 year deal and wouldn't give him 3 years. That is 100% true. The club wanted to keep him but not at the expense of a 3 year deal. The same thing happened with Chris Hill.

They therefore, by not offering Clark an extra year, allowed him sign at Saints who were offering him 3 years. When it became apparent that he had agreed a deal at Saints, the club then chose to sign Brad Dwyer.

I don't see how the statement about Walker subsequently then becoming our starting hooker holds any relevance or significance. They still replaced Daryl Clark with Brad Dwyer. Burgess didn't rate Dwyer and then signed Sam Powell to replace him.

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