I know the signs were there in the Salford preseason friendly but who honestly believed this is where we’d be?The whole club from top to bottom has become as Matt Turner said in his Guardian piece toxic.Had high hopes for Powell but a massive fail for me as either his methods aren’t working or the team just don’t want him here.Oh and I’d have Price back in a heartbeat.

I don't think we are "too good to go down" I just don't think we are the worst team in the league - I cannot see Toulouse winning 3 more games than us in the second half of the season.

Yes it may be that Powell is "emperors clothes" or it may be he is fighting a good fight against the culture of mediocracy and petulant players and we need to have faith until they are gone.

We are not winning anything this season anyway even if we abandon Powell and let Currie, King, Cooper and Philbin choose their best mate as coach.

Have you forgotten 3 play off exits at home at the first hurdle 2019, 2020, 2021 - beaten by colossal teams such as Cas, Hull and Hull KR? Or it that what passes as success?

I think the idea is we are going through this pain now so we can be real contenders in the future. I don't believe Powell is a bad coach, but I do believe we have culture problems and players that think they are better than they are. Players that perhaps had got comfortable running their side businesses with playing pro rugby an after thought.

They don’t have to ‘win 3 more games that’s us’..
They don’t even have to win one or draw one more than us, they could relegate us on points difference alone.

Spot on

I tried to say this but took 4 paragraphs and still didn't manage it!!

Eh? They could have a better points difference than everyone in the league by winning four games 120 nil and then losing all the others by one point. They'd still be relegated if they had fewer points than everyone else.

I feel your passion and you make some very good points but to counter some of them

Recruitment - the squad had been sliding for years, Powell made the mistake of trusting the "challenge accepted" nonsense from Philbin on the packs capability. He had tried to remedy this for next season and this.

Youth - Ashton and Wrench are now starters. Thewlis has missed out because Powell is trying to find a halfback partnership that works.

You are spot on though - he needs to start dropping players. Currie, Philbin, King for starters.

I know we currently stink but succumbing to player power to oust a coach is unthinkable in repercussions. It's not as if they are top world class players we need to keep happy.

The more pertinent question is, if the board really believe that we are going to get relegated. Powell isn't totally bomb proof as he is answerable but not to anyone on here.

There's mounting discontent amongst the fanbase, due to the dreadful performances (Saints aside) where we've shipped 40 points in three games. Dwindling crowds won't help Powell's cause, and it appears that his revolution has not even got out of the starting gate.

Compare his lack of impact on performances to that of Rohan Smith. I know 3 games that Smith has been in charge is a very small sample to compare, but the positive impact he's had to the negative one so far from Powell is clear to see. If we don't improve by the end of July and are in the relegation mix, then Powell's position is under threat.

I was pessimistic because of the state of our pack. I remember in the off season I was saying things like we will probably find that we go backwards relative to where we were under the Price era and most people on here thought I was unduly pessimistic and were saying none of the top teams have a better squad than us etc. I thought we'd finish around 6th or 7th.

The reports from the preseason friendly were a warning sign and the other thing that set alarm bells running for me was seeing Barrie McDermott and Shaun Wane say "I think Daryl Powell has got a huge challenge on his hands" at the time the season started. Those guys will talk to people and be hearing the gossip around the SL scene and I wondered if that meant there were problems in the camp beyond just having a weak pack. I think we were lucky with that win against Leeds in round 1 and without that we'd be on 8 points and in a lot of trouble.

Although something is obviously not right, I’m not sure Powell is the problem here. He at least has a record of turning clubs around.

If we fire him now who do we get? An unproven NRL assistant who takes us back to 5 drives and a kick and exits in the playoffs?

There’s clearly more going on and this season is already a write off. The big thing now is avoiding a relegation fight and slowly building things back up in Powell’s way, with the pressure off the team and letting them get some confidence back.

And I’m no happy clapper before anyone asks.

Surely an NRL assistant getting to the play offs is better than getting boo’d off and missing the play offs entirely?

If we’re not going to do anything, just go into pre-season mode. Put those not staying for 2023 on gardening leave and build for next year. But with that, you have to accept that you’re risking the corporate image of the club by accepting a 7-11th place finish.

It's a good mentality to have that and one I'm sure Warrington's board will share IF they still believe in Powell. It's a risk however as if he turns out not to be the man for the job, you're potentially wasting a few years making the situation worse, then have to embark on another rebuilding phase, so you could be setting yourselves back five years with this move. Only time will tell I guess.

One thing that I've noticed is a lot of people saying this is him exposing and removing the bad elements from Warrington. But if you look at that lineup arguably the players playing the worst in your team are the ones who are staying. That doesn't sound like a situation where the players are buying in and it's just a few stragglers who are being forced out being toxic. The likes of King, Currie, Philbin and even Darryl Clark are way off their best in terms of effort and perfromance levels, but they should be the ones flying the flag for Powell.