Seemed such an interesting and focused original post. Pity it went astray ... but no surprise.
1. Not sure our "best" left edge actually played together very much after the start of the season. i.e. Lineham, King, Widdop & Currie
2. I think Charnley is still pretty good given a ball 20 yards out with a tough job to do to get over the line. Our best winger (currenly on our books) in heavy traffic, close to line. In defence I think he was blamed too often for defensive problems caused inside.
3. Still very useful just a bit too casual for me at times. Looked very assured and in total control at hooker v.Cas. I still thought he played his best stuff at right centre ... I have a long memory it was some years back.
4. I can't see an obvious leader either. But lots of clubs are the same.
5. Yes we did miss his up and under at times. It was overdone so much ... but still useful.

No matter how much turd the troll rolls in he's still just a troll in a saints shirt covered in turd.

I'm sure it's a very fulfilling life though for someone spawned from that gene pool.

You're back from beyond the Mucky Mountains ,more incarnations than Doctor Who.

Is St Helens twinned with Gallifrey, as you've had more regenerations than Dr Who.
Apologies, Ninearches beat me to it.

What on earth have you found to complain about on this thread? Just posters exchanging their views.

Gene pool, in St Helens?
Have you seen a typical St Helens family tree?
They're very narrow.

That's what I mean, it's more of a Reed than a tree.

The attention seeking teenager puts it across in a bit of a manner which is all too mature for me, he does have a point.

Until we win the big one, we are just “also ran” names. Cas, Salford and Hull have just as much pedigree as us in the principal competition, which boils down to nothing unless you win it.

A cup win gives us a day in the sun, and we enjoyed it, but the sting should still be there when it comes to us not being a “big club” and the “it’s always your year”. We have taken that last one on as an ironic chant, but it’s embarrassing. Until we win it, those things should always sting, not just us but the players.

If we eventually do win superleague though, does that mean we need to be disrespectful to those other clubs as though we are lordly and they have no pedigree?

I'd like to think not, that would make us classless imbeciles like our visiting friend.

Let's not forget this is a sport where top clubs have had far too much power and principally that power has been held by the 3 sides that have won it the most, I believe its one of the main reasons the game is on its backside. There are barriers to other clubs winning that must be overcome, we have jumped most of those off field hurdles (by joining the club so to speak) just need to take the final step. Annoyingly we have wasted the last 3 years worth of opportunity with a hopeless head coach.

Some mindless idiots will, yes. Every successful team picks up their collection of Steph Curry’s/King James etc. along the way, people who pull the tags of their freshly purchased replica kit on the way to the final itself, without knowing what is going on or what the rules are. It’s the nature of the beast.

Somewhere, there will be a nucleus of Saints fans that don’t have the same arrogance of the rest of the pillocks, as they are there to support their team, not to try and wind up others. They just get drowned out by people in their mums back bedroom typing messages on here in between bouts of self romance.

Self romance ha ha

I'd like to think we'd be gracious in victory yes we'd make the most of the Final itself especially if was against a Wigan or Saints but to carry on and on being ungracious wouldn't sit well with me