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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Total opposite for me if this is true: I'm really pleased and think its the right appointment. Up there with bringing in TS in 2009 as a move that will get the club on the right path.
I would have been happy with any of McDermott, Wane and Powell and in the time since Price announced he was leaving at the end of the season, I've gone back and forth about which one of those I would want if given the choice.
I'd have been more reassured by McDermott and Wane's track records in winning trophies at big clubs but Powell has three big things in his favour:
1) He's been successful in different environments: Leeds, Featherstone and Cas were all different situations and he improved each one significantly from the situation he inherited. You never know how Wane/McDermott would do in a different environment (unless you can read much into McDermott at London and Toronto).
2) He's improved players that he's inherited or brought in as non-obvious signings. He changed the culture at Leeds from expensive big stars to the young hungry squad that TS later won with. When he took over Cas in 2013, if you saw what his 2017 squad would be on paper you would have said that looks like about 8th in SL, not one that would dominate the league season. He hasn't been a coach that has indulged himself in galactico signings, he has an eye for a signing and seems to improve guys when they play under him.
3) He plays attacking, expansive rugby. This will be a welcome change for us. One of the most creditable things about Cullen during his time here was he had a philosophy about us wanting to be an attacking team, from his early days ('get the nails out of Jon Clarke's feet') to wanting the pitch specifications at the HJ to be wide so he could bring in attacking strike players. We've lost that since about the mid point of the TS era, but I think Powell will revisit that. If the knock on him is "he hasn't won things and has come up short in big games", well that has been where we have been in recent years too...but I'd rather we came just short playing expansive positive rugby like Cas did, than what we have had recently.
I know people knock him for his dour Yorkshire demeanour and tendency to have a moan in press conferences, but he seems to be well regarded by players that play for him. I get the impression he's a serious coach who has no time for wasters and showboats and won't be trying to bullpoop the fans or players by trying to 'say all the right things'. Also people have complained about the 'jobs for the boys' culture at Warrington and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy who will be doing favours for people who aren't up to the job.
There are no guarantees with any appointment but all things considered I think this is a really positive move for the club and it has lifted a lot of the cynicism I've felt towards the club for a while now.'"
Ah Sal, your insights have been one of the things I’ve missed the most during my sabbatical away from RLFANS. Superb post as always.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"You also wrote:
Powell is actually a very good coach who can actually coach a team and motivate his players.
So why so negative?'"
It’s called having a bit of light hearted humour on a Tuesday afternoon.
FWIW I rate Powell. I think it’s a good appointment and I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do with a better squad and resources.
If he brings Trueman with him I’ll be elated.
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| Perhaps we also need some refreshment to our scouting set up to provide the calibre of player that Powell can improve & get the best out of instead of signing our usual overrated journeymen.
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| Now official.
Be interesting to see if he brings his own team in, or we go again with Henderson, Briers et al
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| Is this really (I mean, really) not going to happen until next year? It's going to be very strange for both coaches, but particularly Powell as the season progresses and both teams go through ups and downs.
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"Now official.
Be interesting to see if he brings his own team in, or we go again with Henderson, Briers et al'"
IMO he will bring in his own team... which I think is good for the club. Briers is quite rightly a Wire legend... but he needs to move on. (Maybe coming back in 5 - 10 years as a head coach).
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| If nothing else he should get us playing in a way where you won't feel conned out of your hard-earned.
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"Now official.
Be interesting to see if he brings his own team in, or we go again with Henderson, Briers et al'"
Actually he'd get more credit from me for keeping much of the same set up IF he judges it to be up to standard and he delivers.
I don't think any of us know what role/scope/influence Hendo and Briers have with SP.
Similarly for the rest of the back room staff.
I've no problem if he brings one or two new faces in in the backroom if he judges they wil add value.
Hendo did well at London before coming here and I think he'd be disappointed at not having been given a shot as head coach. Possibly that was the original intention when he joined but even though we've won trophy under SP I think we've gone backwards since the last year of TS.
Therefore with all the investment that's gone in I can understand why they wanted a proven pair of hands.
Hendo could end up as head coach of Cas! Who knows.
For me Briers needs to eventually go elsewhere to prove himself (similar to Cull) if he wants to be head coach.
I'm a lot happier than I was before the Powell appointment was announced.
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| I think we need to allow Powell to decide on his backroom really, hopefully he will want to work with Briers and Henderson but he needs to be backed to be successful and that includes the backroom staff IMO.
Henderson may well want to move on to become a head coach elsewhere, Anderson could possibly be promoted to first team as well. I certainly don't hold any of the current coaching staff outside of Steve Price accountable for our poor performances and I wouldn't be heralding them as the reasons we win trophies if we pick up silverwear, the buck stops with the head man.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"
3) He plays attacking, expansive rugby. This will be a welcome change for us. One of the most creditable things about Cullen during his time here was he had a philosophy about us wanting to be an attacking team, from his early days ('get the nails out of Jon Clarke's feet') to wanting the pitch specifications at the HJ to be wide so he could bring in attacking strike players. We've lost that since about the mid point of the TS era, but I think Powell will revisit that. If the knock on him is "he hasn't won things and has come up short in big games", well that has been where we have been in recent years too...but I'd rather we came just short playing expansive positive rugby like Cas did, than what we have had recently.'"
I can assure you this hasn’t been the case at Cas since 2017.
For the last few seasons our style has been pretty basic and pretty easy to nullify. In 2017 we had naturally attack-minded players in Hardaker, Gale, Benny Roberts and McShane. Even our props could offer a ball-handling threat.
In 2018, 2019 and 2020 we were pretty predictable and easy to defend. Shut down our left-edge and we offered very little. This year looks a bit more positive with Evalds at full-back, but we’re still not offering much attacking threat.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Hope he goes well for you. He's been a massive part of improving Cas and leaves with the thanks of most of our supporters.
The massive question mark over him is winning big games. We've put in some abject performances in finals, semi-finals and play-off games.'"
Ouch. Hit us when we’re down. 
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I can assure you this hasn’t been the case at Cas since 2017.
For the last few seasons our style has been pretty basic and pretty easy to nullify. In 2017 we had naturally attack-minded players in Hardaker, Gale, Benny Roberts and McShane. Even our props could offer a ball-handling threat.
In 2018, 2019 and 2020 we were pretty predictable and easy to defend. Shut down our left-edge and we offered very little. This year looks a bit more positive with Evalds at full-back, but we’re still not offering much attacking threat.'"
Sounds very familiar 
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