League table says otherwise

To get back to the thread title......lose on Thursday, and I expect Mr Smith to be running around with his underpants on his head, shouting "DON'T PANIC, DON'T PANIC, WE'VE LOST FIVE GAMES, DON'T PANIC" a la Corporal Jones in Dad's Army.

Forgive me for repeating myself (I've mentioned this, once or twice, before), but we've been sleepwalking into this, since 2011. Yes, that's SEVEN seasons ago. The season we've played the most entertaining rugby I've seen.

Surely it wasn't just me, that could see an ex NRL prop in his early 30's, with a serious eye problem that forced him out for months, was very near the end of his career. Smith kept him for another 2 seasons.

Surely it wasn't just me, that could see a half back, who had a penchant for picking up leg muscle injuries, keeping him out for 2-3-4 weeks at a time. FFS, if it wasn't for a specialist advising him to retire at the end of 2014 with a different injury, Smith would still be playing him now.

Surely it wasn't just me, who could see other 30+ year old players that we're nearing the end, but Smith simply stuck his head on the sand, and ignored the march of time on these players.

Don't get me wrong, these players are club legends, but there comes a time when you have to be ruthless. We should have acted sooner. There's no room in sentiment in sport. See Ferguson in football. If he sees a player has outgrown his usefulness.... out he goes.

We're seeing the same with Westwood, now. The fella was gone, two or three years ago. But we're treating him like the 15 year old family dog. Too sentimental to see his suffering.

Smith's recruitment stinks. His approach is scattergun, with the "just throw some money at it" with players at the top end of the market, and "make do and mend" from your bargain basement, ooops shelf at Asda, player.

I agree with many on here. Wane's got him at arm's length, patting him on the head, when they beat us in important games. He's easily got the measure of Smith.

As I said, sleepwalking for years. Let's not kid ourselves. 2 finals and a LLS, in the worse SL season ever, in terms of quality, simply papered over the cracks.

Oh, and if he suddenly decides to pull his finger out, and turn this debacle around, perhaps he could tell that fraud Stuart fluffing Pearce to sling his fluffing hook, and never darken our door again.A man who's most famous for missing a penalty, and being an all round loser, is asked to give motivational speeches before cup finals.......only at Warrington, eh?

I had to stop myself from standing up and clapping after reading this!

Go on, stand and clap.

You know you want to.

Yeah, except unfortunately for you, leeds have 6 points on the board, you have no points.

And the award for stating the bleeding obvious goes to.....

Not yet as we are only 2 wins off top 8,

I'd say yes if we are bottom two after 15 games

Less than that....
If we are bottom and pointless after 12 rounds. It's out of our hands and well be reliant on teams dropping points. That leaves us only 8 games to get at least one win to avoid doom.

Leeds had Segeyaro to pull them out of the fertilizer last year .I don't know about suing him they should be paying him a bonus .

We have scored some good tries this season but the main problem is that our 4 SL opponents so far have easily outscored us.What the team desperately needs is a defensive tactician to look at what is going wrong & why we are leaking so many points.It is obvious that the clowns in charge of the team haven't a clue about tightening the defence to resolve our present problem when teams attack us.What happened to the sliding defence of a few years ago. I think an even bigger problem though is that a new broom is needed to freshen the club up ,with fresh ideas & probably a bit more faith in his own players instead of scapegoating to cover up poor management & poor management decisions.

Having dwelled on this for a few days, and read the comments, I'd agree with most of the observations made.

However, my mind goes back to Hull last year and the infamous dressing room lock in by the players, at a time when Hull's form was poor, certainly considering the playing staff available. All the talk on here of big time charlie's, general unrest, coach not up to the job, players without confidence in tactics were echoed on the Hull forum.

I know that Hull weren't in the predicament we were but they were at a similar season nadir at this time. The players cleared the air, probably spoke a few home truths and turned it round.

Looking at Wires, for all the issues we've agreed on, I think a lot of it is due to player unrest and I don't think TS is the cause all of a sudden.