I thought the decision to take Sims off was correct and as much due to the two passes his attempted in our own half which gifted posession to the opposition at a time when we should have been maintaining steady pressure.

Someone needs a word in his ear and tell him he isn't a ball-handling prop, or Mark Thomas with long hair and an Aussie accent but a hard-running no-frills second-row/prop, and please stick to it.

However, I'd agree with the concensus. We were several levels below appalling and couldn't give half that lot away let alone sell them.

So glad there's not only me sees this sims can't break a tackle, don't make any in roads into the opposition , hills all on his own people are relying on sandow to perform but he'll need a bit of grunt up front to shine, Leeds forwards last night shown the way making yards and offloads.

totally agree thats why i cant understand wheeler playing joel to centre penny on the wing.fwiw penny would of flew in that corner

When the pic of Joel in w/c with a dog came out, was it TS behind the camera?

To who precisely? Who would take them?

Hardly fair the criticism of Ashton Sims on this thread, he is quality along with Hill, unfortunately they both have to go off at some point, but I think today I would have given Hill 60 minutes, he is capable. We are carrying too much deadwood in the squad. Asotasi and England are both a waste of a shirt. Wheeler? Why was he brought in for a game like this? Atkins? Seemed to think after his try his work for the afternoon was done and he could watch from the wing. Currie? Another player who went missing when we needed go forward. O'briens distribution was abysmal, I am losing count of how many times he is caught in possession. Joel Monaghan is still a quality finisher and has never relied on pace, I don't see a future for him at centre though so unless he will be on the other wing to Lineham next season then we can get rid. Only a few positives to take from today, Myler was brilliant, particularly in defence. Sam Wilde tackles everything that moves and we all save money on Wembley.

quid asiteasy
2 quid obrien
1.50 atkins
quid england
50p wheeler and we`ll throw in a stretcher..

or the lot for a fiver.you just pay there wages

He he

England would be a decent signing for a championship side pushing for promotion, GoB has many admirers from other clubs ,same with Atkins especially in Yorkshire ,Leigh would be looking to strengthen their squad if they make super league .
We should only be looking to sign players of the quality to be in top 4 teams

We had that thread at the end of last season. We Need A Quality Prop and a Halfback.
It was so obvious it was blinding but TS is too bloody stubborn to admit he got it wrong.

We didn't play well, but I disagree with some of the comments, especially on GOB and England, last season we were one away from CC and GF, the problem has been players that were bought in have not performed to the expected standards of the guys we lost,, TS and agar are not steering the ship in the right direction, and for all of briers passion getting involved, it's looking all a bit desperate and embarrassing , him coming on with water bottles and trying to influence the game,,

Really?

im interested to see what qualites either of them bring to a top 4 SL side trying to win a grand final.