Were just not good enough at all.

That second half performance was abysmal. Dropping the ball, stupid offloads on the 1st tackle and silly penalties. When we had the ball we hadn't a clue what to do with it. The kicking game is shocking. Im bored of kicking it the air and having no one chasing the ball allowing them easy yards.





Amazing support as always but just not good enough.

I don't understand why Silverwood gave a penalty for Ormsby's disallowed try. If Harrison was held then surely they should go back and play the ball?

The thing is Saints are under strength in the halves.. you have Wilkin in there and the very ordinary Travis Burns. We have our first choice in Myler and our new hope in Patten.Both were ordinary to poor today, with the odd good pass or kick thrown in.

We wont get better than that. When You have Walsh back you wont rely on Wilkin and Burns.... so thats why you will compete for the grand final places and we wont.

You shouldn't be losing that game today. We had five of our starting thirteen out injured again including our best half back and our entire back row as we had Wilkin at scrum half. Despite that our pack still got on top in the end. Ratchford looked so dangerous with the ball in hand and Myler looked capable of creating tries. You were toowilling to engage in the arm wrestle,even when you were losing it. You needed to be more expansive to get field position and be clinical when in good territory and you managed neither.

You'll have Wheeler due back shortly so what's the fuss

Completely agree with this post.

Is GOB injured?

No, he's being kept out by Patton, also known as the invisible man.

Sadly the efforts of the RFL to improve the quality of Superleague have not worked .We have 2 teams less in the division & are left with 12 mediocre teams. The RFL need to get back to the drawing board fast.

We badly missed Mickey Higham today to engineer moves & create space. From what i saw today Clark did no more than what John Clarke used to get slated for & how he ever got to be MOS is beyond me.

(Yet again...) Is it the RFLs fault that the clubs are signing mediocre players, their youth structures aren't producing exciting young players, and coaches are focussing on nullifying tactics rather than expansive rugby ?

I'm not sure any one player missing today would have made a difference by their inclusion, because our problem remains a group one - we have no composure.

When we engineer an attacking position (such as the Myler break at the start of the second half) we lack the composure to keep in control, remain patient and not try to engineer the impossible on every play. In defence, whenever the opposition get a sniff we lack the composure to trust our colleagues, keep our structure and shape and remain focussed.

We've beaten ourselves today. Indiscipline and individual errors have compounded the problems I've mentioned.

Well, you can SAY that. But from where I'm looking SL has never fielded as much quality at the junior level. By comparison the Australians are looking ... can we dare say it ... threadbare? We already easily match them in the pack. Indeed, I'd say we currently outmatch Australia in the pack.

Throw in some of the kids we've got coming through at Warrington, Saints, Wigan, Leeds etc. and we've never had a better chance of turning them over in years.

Saints gradually took over the game once we sorted the indiscipline out. Pleasing part for us was that we took over it whilst our on field props were Thompson, Richards and Savelio. We were in front by the time Walmsley, Amor and Masoe came back on.

Never really felt out of it and you can always count on Warrington to blow it. Your play is entirely opportunistic; if you don't make errors or give penalties away, Warrington quite literally have no chance of beating you.

Kudos to Tony Smith's brilliance. Targeting Makinson with the high ball, offloading in your own 20, anyone playing Ryan Atkins and Gene Ormsby on the same side - comedy genius.

You won't win a championship with Smith as coach full stop. His game is entirely non-suited to Play Off rugby. The sport has passed him by,