Defo has a 2010 feel to it

Only hope is they can somehow turn it round like after Salford and London.

It's the kind of reaction you would get on most forums after a defeat like last night, in a few days spirits will be lifted and optimism will return, IMO, Wire are still the team to beat this year.

So do I.

Well saints are one home game away and with their record of getting to old trafford, you would back them.

Leeds have to win away at catalans which isn't an easy task, but if they do, wigan will pick them in club call and you wouldn't bet against leeds defying the odds again to make the final.

It's not over, clearly. Warrington just have to realise the Play Offs aren't just another round of Super League. The tactics have to change, the stupid offloads in your own half have to stop, you have to respect the ball. You still have a pack capable of winning SL, but last night you were coughing up the ball in your own half on a third of your sets I'll bet. There were very few instances of Warrington completing a set with good metres made and then putting a good positional kick in.

Play offs are all about putting the hard work in first, building the momentum and then taking your chances (Of which you had plenty courtesy of Josh Perry and Francis Meli). Warrington last night, as in previous play off campaigns, were panicking and trying to take shortcuts around the hard work. Your last tackle composure was just shot, too many times you ended up throwing the ball around and moving rapidly back towards your own posts.

In the last two weeks of the regular season we scored over 100 points. We also made more errors than any team in the league in both weeks. This came to a head yesterday as we played a team who can actually defend. Our errors actually mattered.

It was almost an identical game to the one back in March.

We needed a kick up the , and we got it yesterday. For me, that is nothing but a good thing. Nowt's changed in terms of needing to win three games to lift the trophy. Apart from thise three games being to beat Saints twice and Wigan once. Now it's beat Hull/Hudds once, Saints once and Wigan once which is an easier prospect.

So, let's go and do it...

We didn't need a kick up the backside..all the reports out of camp said we were perfectly prepared and ready not to fail.

It's only going to be a good thing if we learn from it. I agree that it could be a good thing - we would never have lifted the trophy if we had won yesterday playing like that - but we have to learn. If Hull/Huddersfield have any sense they will have watched that game, and they will be up in our faces at 100mph too, so we need to have a solid plan of how to cope with that.

True.

This season i've seen our games at Wigan away, Wigan at home, Saints away, Huddersfield semi-final and Leeds final and all showed we can play with composure and under pressure.

Many other games showed we can play like we did yesterday so let's hope we lead from it and put things right.


3 wins to lift the trophy.

More errors than any team in both of the last two weeks of the season tells me we did need a kick up the backside.

You lost the forward battle. It is as simplke as that. If your pack lose the forward battle your backs are ineffective.

The loss of carvell and no westwood or harrison meant you were un done in the pack. It pretty easy after that. You were a sorry second best because you lost the forward battle.

What's that got to do with it being a good thing?

"Reflections of today's game" is another thread.