It's been noted that in the fifth round you laughed at us.

Again!

This is becoming an annual event.

3rd year in a row.

Long may it continue

Actually, for me there is no shame for Saints in having lost to Catalans and Huddersfield. Both of those teams are in the group who could potentially win a trophy and they've lost the two games by a combined total of three points. Hardly worth a meltdown in early March.

No, the truly funny aspect is seeing the posters on the Saints forum throwing the baby, the mother and the extended family out with the bathwater. All of a sudden, Lomax has never been a scrum-half, Gaskell needs dropping to the u20s and all of the overseas players should be put back on the boat.

I read one comment that said, 'Why do we bother paying to watch this $hite, week after week?' St Helens fans have got far too used to seeing their team wallop teams like Catalans and Huddersfield for years, and if they continue to believe in a divine right to win every game, perhaps their star will fade like Bradford's.

Tbf though we are one fickle bunch

Firstly, you haven't even been to a Grand Final yet.

Secondly, it is FIVE in a row.

Honestly. If you're going to extract the urine then you really need to get your facts right.

At least we know how to win playoff matches anyway. Unlike one team I could mention.

Bloody ridiculous some of the stuff that is being said on the Saints board at present.

I don't think it is really. The Catalans and Huddersfield results can hardly be seen as shocks these days.

We reached the Grand Final last season. Yeah we did, but that largely because the wheels fell off at Wigan plus the fact that we had James Graham. Saints have always been a side that has had the best individual players in the league. Go back through our Super League history and we've always had three or four of the 5 best players in the league. Players like Long, Sculthorpe, Martyn, Cunningham, Newlove, Roby, Graham, Lyon etc. In the days when we were successful it was because of that core of utterly superb players. They have been dropping off as they retired and we're now down to just Roby as a genuine 'top 5' player. So in the past where we were a play off side that had three or four megastars who made the difference, we're now just a playoff side plus James Roby. The board have been focused solely on the stadium, the playing side of things has been well and truly neglected. Mick Potter and Royce Simmons were very average appointments of solid coaches who were supposed to be No.2's rather than head coaches. Player recruitment has been an afterthought and our reliance on the youth system to pump out megastars hasn't worked either, it's produced a team full of 'decent' players.

There is only the red vee on the shirt and the names that gives sides any trouble these days. Teams pay us too much respect, we're very soft in the forwards and have truly average outside backs.

And how to lose Finals. Biggest. Chokers. Ever.

Always sweet to see the plakky Scousers lose.


They are a club on the slide.

We may finish well adrift of Wire on the League Ladder again but your season will end before ours again

Why do we even debate the league? Why do we even bother with season tickets? This is all irrelevant and the true measurement of a side is how far they go in a month-long playoff event. For me, we should start blooding some youngsters in, as these league games clearly mean nothing.