i wouldnt mind that. but until its proven, means nothing!

Sorry for expressing an opinion that offends you - but hey I guess that's the beauty of being able to express opinions that upset the cliques... For what it's worth (though I see it as no relevance whatsoever - and while you're so keen on trawling through previous posts, you can probably find where I declare my religious beliefs, not that it's anyone else's business...) I'm not a Methodist, I like a drink as much as the next person, but I work in an environment where I see the affects of excessive alcohol both in an anti-social environment & in the context of the damage it does to people young & old. I have formed my opinions on that, on the people I have known killed or seriously injured as a result of alcohol and on the states of people (including family members) I have picked up from the streets after attending sporting events.

Maybe the club would lose revenue from the sales of alcohol but maybe more families would be inclined to watch the match at the ground offsetting that loss? Yes the pubs would have more people drinking in them, but the rate that pubs are closing down that may help their business and will allow police & security staff to deal with them in smaller locations than 8-10,000 in the stadium.

I'm delighted for those who can hold their drink, who know when to stop or who don't feel the need to get tanked up to watch a match - perhaps you would be happy to explain how you don't think there is a problem at the HJ to the family of the lad from Halifax currently in Walton Hospital waiting to see if he lives or not?

Yours seems to be a very idealistic view. Banning alcohol in the ground wouldn't stop trouble. If people are set to cause trouble they will. They will rush in more pints in a shorter amount of time to get suitably tanked up before they head into the ground - the chances of the outcome being any different are slim.

If someone arrives in the pub at 12.30 ready for an early evening kick off they can drink a fair amount in that time if they are that way inclined, the few they would possibly miss in the ground would do nothing to counter the problem realistically. And of course we all know there are ways around getting drink into ground anyway.

On the other hand you have your family who go to the game together, arrive slightly before kick off Dad isn't driving so decides to have a drink? why shouldn't he?

I'm going to the grand final on Saturday and me and thousands of others will have a drink or 3 with no problems. Yes you will get some idiots (drink fuelled or not) but its up to the stewards and police to take swift action to stop problems. Punishing the masses won't solve anything.

Unfortunatly people get injured as a result of drink related violence on a regular basis but I am assuming you wouldn't call for an outright ban on alcohol so why after one incident are you calling for it banning at grounds?

Wasn't smoking banned due to it being unpleasant to be sat/stood next to or near to a smoker as well as being harmful not only to the smoker, but those close to them.

Being sat/stood next to or close to someone who is bladdered and can't 'handle their drink' is particularly unpleasant. If you are unlucky then coming into contact with an aggressive drunk can be far more harmful to your health than any amount of passive smoking!

I was there on Sunday, this is an irrelevant discussion, there was no trouble with drink in the HJ until after the second game, when the Halifax/Featherstone people arrived. he same ones who had been drinking in town since at least 12 o'clock. I remember when Featherstone came in the cup and there was trouble.

has anyone been on the fax board to see the thread on this there?

Someone saying it wasn't alcohol fuelled violence but a prank that went wrong, someone jumped on this fella's back and he fell awkwardly hitting his head.


I'm sure it was there yesterday,

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its funny how the top poster posts the facts then people still carry on about out of control fans.

it wasnt a prank gone wrong the police have said it was an attack and sealed the site off hope the lad gets well and fax have said in the blog they do that some concrete evidence will be released soon but as far as am aware all newspapers are treating it as a attack which dont suprise me walkin past fev fans and listening to them sing w***y halifax

The main problem is the late kickoffs. A lot of Fev fans were kicked out of pubs close to the groud around 2pm as their coaches arrived at 10am and they had been drinking since then. A lot were not allowed in the ground. I don't think it helped that none of the Fev fans heard the tannoy announcement about the fire, so all they saw was a load of Fax fans invading the field when their team was in our 20 with 4 tackles to go.

I saw the imediate aftermath of the incident and I cannot honestly say I saw any Fev fans running away, however I also didn't see anyone jump on his back.

what trouble in the cup game?

Wasn't sure about that, but seem to remember them arguing with the stewards, because they couldn't get into the west stand. It's the flat caps I remember. I think We made a mistake that time by not opening the West Stand.